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Heel and Toe: A Question of Technique

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Old 03-09-2001, 12:30 PM
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Is it me or is it really difficult to Heel and Toe on this car? I find it very advantageous to use this technique to match revs on downshifts for a corner while braking at the same time, and have been doing it for years (I am extremely old, however). I know Ricky Rudd and them boys don't on the road courses but they got them thar Jericho transmissions that you can downshift without the clutch and all....

Do any of the accessory pedal arrangements allow for better usage of this time-honored and very useful practice??
Old 03-09-2001, 12:47 PM
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Bob, I placed a post a short while back with regards to the correct and effective heel/toe technique. Yes, it does depend on your body structure, relative seating position and even type of footwear used.

You can do it two ways:

1. With the right edge of your right foot, 'rolling over' onto the throttle to 'blip' it, whilst your heel stays on the floor more underneath the brake pedal

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2. Using your heel to 'stab' the throttle whilst pivoting the ball of your foot on the brake pedal.

Have a go and try both these techniques. I'm not sure which you are using now, but one of them should work for you.

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I find the pedal positioning in the S2k to be excellent for heel-toeing, though I've never tried while moving since I don't have mine yet.

Who's Ricky Rudd?
Old 03-09-2001, 01:11 PM
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I had a little difficulty at first. I had pedal covers in my integra and Sime's 1st technique worked well for me because the brake and gas pedals were fairly close together. When I got the S2000, I found the pedals were spaced a tad too wide for my size 10 feet. But, I've become used to pointing my foot a little sideways and using Sime's 2nd technique.
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#2 works like a champ for my size 11's.
Old 03-09-2001, 01:41 PM
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I use technique #1 with my size 9 shoes. I find in the S2000 that I need to angle my foot as though I was going to use #2. So, I guess I use a hybrid in the S2000. I have Momo pedals (pretty close together) in my Teg and #1 is easy as pie.
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yeah... the pedals are a bit too far apart for my taste in the S2K (anyone have a good solution for this?).

i've always used technique #1 in the past (in other cars), but simply can't make it workable in the S2K. so i've been switching to #2 and to be honest it's frustrating. i'd love to stick with what i know (it's pure muscle memory for me now).

if anyone has a good solution let me know.
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This was a big change for me also. Approach #1 works in my M3 but I need to use the second option in the S2K. I have to think about which car I'm in before I brake for the corner.
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originally posted by S2kRob:Who's Ricky Rudd?

Old 03-09-2001, 09:14 PM
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I suppose size of foot does matter, but I have no problem with heal and toe in the S2000. I do more of a #1, but with a twist so to speak. Normally I have the middle of my foot on the brake pedal and twist my foot so that my toes go onto the gas pedal. It's kind of like #1, but quite the opposite of #2. Instead of twisting my foot to have my heal on the gas, I'm twisting the opposite way.

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