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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Hey guys, I found it's really strange that I could match the rev perfectly a lot of the time, but then there were times where I would over rev and jerk like hell Do you look at the speedometer or tachometer when you do heel-toe or just by feel. What are your tips on this?

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Starting out learning, I looked, but eventually, just gotta do it by feel/sound.

Can't be staring at your dash when there's cars ahead of you at the track who are all probably braking for the turn, too.

I'm not the guy to ask for tips since I'm still trying to master it, but just practice practice practice. Just remember that the higher the gears, the less blip you need, at least with ap2. I think 3rd to 2nd is about 1500-2000 rpm blip? 5-4 is like 800-1000? Can't remember at the moment, I do it by sound and "muscle memory" now. Oh yeah and of course, that all changes depending on how much you're braking, so that was worthless
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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blippers!!!
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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For me it is harder when I am just practicing on the road. It is not as easy for me when I am not on the brakes hard.

It seems to me when I am hard on the brakes my foot is more stable and it is easier to blip the throttle and the shifts are faster and in the correct RPM range. I guess it helps to be going faster Maybe it's just that I am not that good at it.

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Its best to learn on someone else's car Heel-toe shifting only really helps when driving aggressively, trying to do it slowly is making a simple procedure unnecessarily difficult, but everyone has to learn. The best thing to do is to ease yourself into it, start with rev-matching your downshifts, when you can make that seamless, try it going into a turn while braking. When you can rev-match your downshifts with out a second thought heel-toe shifting is an easy transition.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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I've been practicing in my 93 civic DX but now I can do it flawlessly.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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practice in your sleep.. it works..

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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I find it takes me longer to go from 5th to 4th than any other change, so I have to give it a little bigger or longer blip or else the revs are too low when I get there.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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for me, 2nd>1st was the hardest to master with the S2k...

5th>4th should be a BREEEEEZE.. should hardly have to blip it deep into the range!!!!

Hmm.. interrrrresting.
haha, jk, just wanted to say it like all curious.. "interrrresting"
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by audiophile,Feb 28 2008, 04:59 PM
Heel-toe shifting only really helps when driving aggressively, trying to do it slowly is making a simple procedure unnecessarily difficult, but everyone has to learn.
I would agree with this.

I have no problems rev-matching on the downshifts but I have tried heel & toe and I find that it isn't ideal for light braking as you are approaching junctions or other traffic. You only see the benefits when you are braking hard because it makes it easier to get your foot onto the accelerator.

I have managed to perform perfect heel & toe downshifts through 5th to 3rd once but I deliberately braked hard, in normal driving conditions rev-matching suits my driving better.
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