S2000 Talk Discussions related to the S2000, its ownership and enthusiasm for it.

Help: Can't get rid of CEL P0420 on '08 S2K

Thread Tools
 
Old Apr 9, 2023 | 01:18 PM
  #1  
anon2k's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 19
Likes: 3
Default Help: Can't get rid of CEL P0420 on '08 S2K

Background: I have a 2008 S2K that I installed a new Berk HFC and new Tanabe Revel exhaust on (a little over one year and ~3000 miles ago). Car won't pass emissions due to CEL P0420 that keeps popping up even after I clear the code using Hondata FlashPro. I tried disabling the secondary O2 sensor using the Hondata FlashPro but then, for whatever reason, my catalytic converter readiness would not ready no matter how much I tried driving the car (not sure if the disabling of the secondary O2 sensor had to do with this).

What are my options to keep the CEL P0420 from popping up so that I can finally get the car to pass emissions?
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2023 | 02:04 PM
  #2  
noodels's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 6,331
Likes: 615
From: Norfolk UK
Default

A de-fouler maybe the best option,i put my cat back on for the Test,otherwise takes 10+Mins holding at 4k rpm to get HFC hot to pass anyway.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2023 | 02:38 PM
  #3  
B serious's Avatar
Member (Premium)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,841
Likes: 1,705
From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
Default

Install an angled defouler that faces toward the front of the car. Meaning the secondary O2 sensor will face toward the rear of the car.

You will need to unclip the O2 sensor wiring harness completely in order to install.

Clip it all back in after you're done.

You will still fail a visual inspection. You will pass a plug in inspection.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2023 | 03:02 PM
  #4  
anon2k's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 19
Likes: 3
Default

Thanks. Can you please share with me a link to a angled spacer that I can buy?
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2023 | 05:46 AM
  #5  
sssmokin's Avatar
Registered User
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 63
Likes: 18
Default

Originally Posted by anon2k
Background: I have a 2008 S2K that I installed a new Berk HFC and new Tanabe Revel exhaust on (a little over one year and ~3000 miles ago). Car won't pass emissions due to CEL P0420 that keeps popping up even after I clear the code using Hondata FlashPro. I tried disabling the secondary O2 sensor using the Hondata FlashPro but then, for whatever reason, my catalytic converter readiness would not ready no matter how much I tried driving the car (not sure if the disabling of the secondary O2 sensor had to do with this).

What are my options to keep the CEL P0420 from popping up so that I can finally get the car to pass emissions?
I have the exact same setup and issue. I just put my stock cat back on. Let me know what angled defouler you buy to solve your issue.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2023 | 07:44 AM
  #6  
B serious's Avatar
Member (Premium)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,841
Likes: 1,705
From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
Default

A google search will find them.


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Car-Sensor-Angled-Extender-Spacer-90-Degree-02-Bung-Extension-M18-X-1-5-For-Any-Thread-Size-Of-18mm/329256930


They come as a kit with straight, long, short, and angled peices. Here's rhe orientation I use with a test pipe on my MY07 track car. No CEL for me on my stock ECU. So it should work just fine with your HFC.

This orientation was recommended by Billman.



Last edited by B serious; Apr 10, 2023 at 07:55 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2023 | 01:48 PM
  #7  
anon2k's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 19
Likes: 3
Default

Originally Posted by B serious
A google search will find them.


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Car-Senso...18mm/329256930


They come as a kit with straight, long, short, and angled peices. Here's rhe orientation I use with a test pipe on my MY07 track car. No CEL for me on my stock ECU. So it should work just fine with your HFC.

This orientation was recommended by Billman.

Than you sir! So the Walmart one you linked is straight plug and play? (Simply take off the O2 sensor then screw in the right angle spacer then screw in the O2 sensor into the longer end of the spacer?)

is it ok also for your O2 sensor cables to be twisted up like how it’s shown in your photo when re-installing?
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Apr 10, 2023 | 04:49 PM
  #8  
B serious's Avatar
Member (Premium)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,841
Likes: 1,705
From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
Default

Yes, just orient it like I have it and screw it in/tighten it.

The cable is just bunched up because I put it down that way.

Remember what I said about completely unplugging and unclipping the O2 harness from the car.

Take note or mark or take photos of where it clips into.

Then install everything.

Then clip the O2 harness back how you found it and plug it back in.

It should clip to the trans mount, and again to the trans bracket before winding its way above the trans, and clipping once more into a bracket where the plug is.

Last edited by B serious; Apr 10, 2023 at 04:52 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2023 | 12:53 AM
  #9  
Zer0ne's Avatar
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 897
Likes: 78
From: LA, California
Default

Disabling the secondary o2 will not allow readiness monitors to set. Defouler is the only way, though I've never had to use one on my Berk HFC. I've had the code pending (doesn't throw CEL) but a spirited drive and straight to emissions test when all is showing clear and ready.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2023 | 10:15 AM
  #10  
B serious's Avatar
Member (Premium)
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,841
Likes: 1,705
From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
Default

Originally Posted by Zer0ne
Disabling the secondary o2 will not allow readiness monitors to set. Defouler is the only way, though I've never had to use one on my Berk HFC. I've had the code pending (doesn't throw CEL) but a spirited drive and straight to emissions test when all is showing clear and ready.
00-05 models often do not require any CEL fix for a HFC.

But that seems to be dependent on each individual car OR HFC itself.

06+ cars often throw a CEL with anything except the factory catalyst.

Ironically, the HFC modification seems to only be worthwhile on 06+ cars because it reportedly allows one to lower the VTEC actuation and tune for more low end/midrange power.

For 00-05 cars, the only rational benefit I can see from a HFC is that its a cheap fix if your OEM cat fails.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:01 PM.