Here's a photo I took of mine after they removed them during the PDI.

They're attached to the springs by each wheel. Really obvious if you look for them.

I made sure to count - all 14 of them were removed (don't know if AP2 comes with the same number).



JonasM

 

I completly agree with letting insurance sue. They told me they don't want to pay for fixing the car because Honda messed up.

But aside from them, I'm wondering if I should sue. I don't want to drive a car that had those installed for 6K miles. Inspection or not, I don't trust the suspension anymore. Also, I ALMOST DIED! Someone has to be accountable for my morning and evening hikes to work, my spinning down the freeway, my seeing a light post and thinking to myself (alright well if I have to go, I guess it's now).

I see the results as a spectrum.
At a minimum, I don't want to have the insurance company fault me
In the middle, I would prefer not to drive the same S2000 again
At the opposite end, I would like to get compensation for damages (a new s2000 for free anybody?)

Thanks for the input, keep it coming!

 

I say you talk to the GM of the dealership that performed the original arrival inspection. Tell him what happened, and that you are ready to show that it happened because of their inability to do their jobs. To 'make this right' and avoid a lawsuit, you expect a new, off the truck 05 to replace your damaged one and they get to repair and resell your old one. You keep your current loan and payments. Seems to me this makes you whole, imposes damages upon the correct group, and keeps your insurance company happy.

 

I don't understand why you think it is Honda's negligence. Honda put the spring spacers in each and every one of their cars that are shipped across the oceans. That is not negligence, that is doing what is right for their customers because it protects the car during shipment.

The neglicent party in your case is clearly the dealer, who ignored Honda's PDI instructions to remove the spring spacers. So blame your dealer for this one, Honda was not negligent as far as I can see from your descriptions.

 

sucks to hear. let you insurance company handle it and if they don't do enough then i suggest taking things in your own hands. time for a nsx.

 

I completly agree with who is at fault here. Obviously, the dealership and not Honda. But Honda dealerships are franchises of Honda and therefore related. Plus it makes for a better title.

 

Honda is at the very least partially to be blamed for this. Honda knew that leaving these spring spacers on is dangerous for any speed above 10-25 mph, but they do not have in place the checking to be 100% sure that when their cars were in customer hands, it is 100% safe to drive on public roads.

The PDI should clearly states that how many spacers on each car, second person at the dealer (service manager ?) should check and recount to be sure that all spacers were removed.

 

 

I agree with mbilderback - with a caveat. I would let the insurance company sue for responsibility. I would ask the insurance co. to negotiate with the GM to get a new car out of it instead of your repaired current one. I think it will be in there best interest to do so - it's not their money, they keep a happy client, and its probably statitically safer to insure a brand new, undamaged vehicle than a repaired one. Even if the dealer is the one at fault, I think it would be better to negotiate through the insurance company - their lawyers will be better (and free to you), you will also get to add on things like a rental, lost wages, etc. Now after all this is done, you might be able to talk to the GM about some goodwill gestures - free service for a period, OEM options like spoilers, lips, CD changers, etc. (the hardtop! unlikely)

 

See a lawyer, I'm not a lawyer but I don't think you can sue for something that didn't happen. You didn't die. It also sounds like you were not seriously injured.

I do think you have a very valid arguement for some pain and suffering due to the accident and inconvenience. I also think you should and would get a new car rather than a repaired car if you push it. They did not prep it properly, which caused an accident. Any accident comprimises the future integrity of a car, even a minor one. THAT is there fault.

Good luck, tough experience

Steve