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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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crazy since Porsche 911 Turbo 996:27,000 Nm/degree!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by plokivos,Jun 28 2007, 02:40 PM
I don't know where you got the 57,000HZ, but honda s2000 is 22,000 Nm/degee.

Only thing surpasses this rigidity for example:

ferrari Enzo, ferrari F50, Lambo Gallardo and not Murcielago, RX-8 (wtf), Mini cooper, Rolls Royce Phantom, VW Golf V GTI, VW Passat and only audi A8 in the entire audi lineup.

http://www.evolutionse.com/forums/showthre...ted=1#post52860

fourth post.
Thanks for the info. Are these accurate? The S2000 is at 7100 for the first post and ~22000 in the fourth post - did something change? And what is a Z4 crossed?
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Jun 28 2007, 01:27 PM
Honda saw room for improvement in the S2000's torsional rigidity and we see this in the upcoming S2000 CR which uses a brace to increase torsional rigidity.
Hmmm, I wonder if we could just buy this one part and mount (or weld) it onto our existing S2000s when it comes out.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by plokivos,Jun 28 2007, 02:42 PM
crazy since Porsche 911 Turbo 996:27,000 Nm/degree!
The more crazy thing is that

Bugatti Veyron : 60,000 Nm/deg

!!!!!


That's stiffer than Carbon Fiber chasis F1 car (40,000 Nm/deg)
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by __redruM,Jun 28 2007, 01:23 PM
How do you "feel the car flexing slightly"? I know you gave a detailed description in the OP, but could you nail down the symptom for us? The situation you describe, crossing expansion joint one wheel at a time, will give a noticable jump from bump steer alone.
It's just a sensation and I think I'm probably slightly more sensitive to these things than most people. When going over uneven bumps, I can feel a slight "quiver" and kind of like a very minor "oscillation" effect via the sound, feel of the seat/floor against my body, and my peripheral vision sensing the shakes (note the A pillars in your peripheral vision, don't look directly at them). I'll have Billman drive the car in a couple of weeks and hopefully, I can put this issue to bed lol.

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by plokivos,Jun 28 2007, 02:50 PM
The more crazy thing is that

Bugatti Veyron : 60,000 Nm/deg

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That's stiffer than Carbon Fiber chasis F1 car (40,000 Nm/deg)
It needs to be I'd imagine, to feel confidence at 250+ mph. Also, the car weighs as much as a truck so all the "unwanted" weight was probably used as stiffening members to make the car as stable as possible. For the price I'd be paying for that car, it sure as heck better put down impressive numbers.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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use the last one. I was curious about the first number because it said 7100 and I had to find that one. Took me a long time to find s2000 number...

I believe z4 M coupe and z4 M convertible have the same torsion rigidity.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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[QUOTE=SiDriver,Jun 28 2007, 09:37 AM] Just out of curiosity... on those open top cars that have so much flex - wouldn't the frame loosen up over time and the car feel like garbage after some mileage?
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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If I am not mistaken, the S2000, starting in 2004, received some upgrades that stiffened the structure further. Go back and read the announcements and you will see what I mean. I have not checked the parts catalogs, but I suspect that the new gussets are in there somewhere.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SiDriver,Jun 28 2007, 02:52 PM
It's just a sensation and I think I'm probably slightly more sensitive to these things than most people. When going over uneven bumps, I can feel a slight "quiver" and kind of like a very minor "oscillation" effect via the sound, feel of the seat/floor against my body, and my peripheral vision sensing the shakes (note the A pillars in your peripheral vision, don't look directly at them). I'll have Billman drive the car in a couple of weeks and hopefully, I can put this issue to bed lol.

Thanks for all the replies.
I think you may be feeling the bushings in the two sub frames, and in the suspension, flexing. If you're seeing the body panels flex relative to one another something may be amiss.
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