what are the eventual consequences besides a burned clutch?

 

it really depends on the "sudden shock" the drivetrain gets. It is that sudden shock that bends the metal in the gears and pits other parts. On the parts with some gear lash, it is like hitting them with a (albeit small) hammer.

I would think a hard launch where the clutch is slipped is a lot less painful on the drivetrain than one where you simply pop the clutch. of course, slipping the clutch wears it.

 

if you try to launch and bog the car, it will actually put more strain and shock on the drivetrain, than if you had done a proper launch and had not bogged.


if you're going to launch, the best way is to pull your nuts up, rev to 6k or whatever, and dump the clutch. NEVER feather it. most of the wear and tear is going to your wheels then.

 

Hard launches will cost u in the long run........ I just replaced the diff last week and now this.......You should see what the hubs and wheel bearings look like.......

 

Wow! Totally sheared off, eh Ken!

dyhppy, as was already said... A lot of stress on the drivetrain. Don't forget the differential either -- lots of cracked housings around the board.

 

Ken, you are also Supercharged though....

 

Worst thing you can do is slip the clutch.
Dump the clutch(side step)

 

It just depends on which part you'd rather replace first... What you are proposing isn't too kind to the tranny...

 

i think people act as if these cars will shatter themselves to pieces if you drive them agressively.

you always hear the stories about those who broke this or that. (and the guy who posted his pics and story in here is SUPERCHARGED so he's running a lot more power than most)


as said, the WORST thing you can do is SLIP the clutch. you'll just fry your clutch. after that the second worst thing you can do, is BOG a launch. it's MORE stress on the drive train than a proper launch.


lastly since everyone is so quick to say "oh don't do this you'll break this or that" let me give you MY personal experience.

My first S2000 drove to about 44,000 miles with WELL OVER 1000 clutch dumps. I NEVER HAD A SINGLE PROBLEM. in fact, I had the clutch tsb done at about 40,000 miles and the clutch still looked brand new. we also pulled apart my diff, and checked my axles, and guess what. NO problems. didn't look ANY different than any other S2000.

On this S2000 I am on 45,000 miles and probably close to 600+ clutch dumps so far. Guess what, again, NO PROBLEMS.


So if dumping the clutch is so "horrid" to our cars, why have I had 2 that have had no issues? not to mention everyone else that's never had a problem? IMO, it's from improper launching or people with FI launching. (obviously manufacturer defects aside)

 

I think you've been lucky, WI, but that's great to hear that the car can take the abuse.

I'm sure you're right that proper technique has a ton to do with how well things will hold up. We have several guys in the New England community that are experts at launching the S2000, and have had reasonable luck too.

That said, in S2000 Talk when someone makes a post like this I feel obligated to be negative. I think you should too, and here's why:

1. A lot of people do break their car. Diffs and clutches seem to be the things I've seen reported most on the board over the years, not to mention Ken's pix above;

2. It makes me angry when these folks end up taking their car to a dealer and then whining about warrantee denials, etc. It's not only frustrating for them, but for the whole community. We all know there are legitimate failures that Honda should cover and then there are abusive failures that are grey territory.

3. The overall ownership experience for these people becomes tarnished because they messed up their cars and then had to pay out-of-pocket to fix 'em -- which they should've been prepared for in the first place.

4. Dealerships get blamed for shoddy support of the community, when they shouldn't have been bothered in the first place.

5. Honda loses a customer.

Just my thoughts, WI. I've never launched my car, and I don't feel any need to. I'm not bigoted about it, because I think it's a cool thing to watch, but I'd rather my car keep running great until I really do become an old man.