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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark355,Nov 4 2010, 06:53 PM
Bingo. Upshifting is all about timing to get it smooth. Slamming gears, while fast, is jerky as hell and hard on the drivetrain. Clutch in and wait for the revs to fall into the range the next gear wants for your current wheel speed before reengaging and it'll be smooth. 90% of my upshifts are seamless.

Downshifting is a little trickier but I pretty much rev-match by ear now.
This is what I do. A combination of timing the shifts and only pressing the clutch halfway to 3/4. Imagine pressing the clutch down all the way and a 1cm gap between the disc and pressure plate. Then releasing the clutch and the two plates slamming together. Now imagine pressing the clutch halfway and only a few mm of a gap. Still a gap, but less violent engagement. These distances are only approximate.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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The lunging forward you're talking about is from you backing off the gas abruptly. For example, next time you drive an auto car, accelerate from a stop and before it changes into second, abruptly take your foot off the gas pedal and you'll note ur passengers will have the same sorta effect. Also note that if you floor it in an auto tranny, when it shifts, ur passengers will do it a lil as well. Difference is that the torque converter will back more smoothly vs. you disengaging the clutch which is usually a quick stomp.
Most people's technique is hit the gas, wait for you to reach you desired rev to upshift, let go of the gas/hit the clutch, shift, and proceed. To make it smoother, you need take away the abruptness of this process, as you reach your desired rev, you should be slowly scaling back the gas pedal, so the power sorta tapers off, so when you disengage the clutch and the power is completely gone to the wheels, you wouldve progressed to that powerless state vs power power power and then none. Same concept as when you brake, you dont just stomp on them, you finesse it to make it smooth.
Also, applying power while your clutch isnt fully engaged/disengage will just wear on your clutch.
You just gotta play around with it.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by badboy00z,Nov 4 2010, 01:28 PM
I've only been driving manual for 6 years and I read that some people here can drive so smoothly that their passenger don't lunch forward every time they shift and I was just wonder how they do it.

I was driving my mom around the other day and I noticed that if I lift off the throttle and wait a bit to step on the clutch she wouldn't lunch forward as much as if I lift off and stepped on the clutch at the same time.

So how do you guys do it?
This isn't a G.D. science. Just don't drive like a fu*king di*khead!
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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00civic si. i know.
no shit.

im saying that not depressing the clutch pedal fully wears the clutch. period.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Also ,there is no need to rap out the rpms between gears just beacuse it has a high redline. If you read the recommended shift points in the owners manual you can get a feel for every day normal driving habits. If I'm relax mode cruising around town I"m in fourth gear up to about 42 or 43 mph. Shifting at lower rpm points will be more comforatble for your average passenger that doesn't want to be jerked around. Now spirited driving is something totally different and with practice even high rpm shift points can be quite smoothe as well as long as the driver is experienced. Practice makes perfect. It was easy for me to transition into the S as I have driven many MTs autos over the years as well as sport bikes. Which is why I love this car so much. We seem to understand one another.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 00CivicSi,Nov 5 2010, 12:04 AM
Always, push the clutch in all the way, and always take your foot off the clutch in between shifts. It's proper form (and the whole point of the dead pedal).

Yeah, while its nice the OP was asking for advice, some of the advice here.... jebus...

First thing you need to do is slow down. I'd start by simply slowing the rate you let of the clutch vs "popping" off it at each shift if you're doing that. Let the syncros do their job and learn the rev-speed patterns to rev match and not overwork them. If you can't shift smoothly, you can't drive smoothly. And remember, The Fast and the Furious is a comedy, not a documentary.
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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1. throttle control. gotta be really smooth releasing the gas or adding gas.
2. rev-match going up and down. if you hit the perfect rev match with your proper clutch pushing and releasing, everything is smooth
3. change your clutch fluid.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 00CivicSi,Nov 4 2010, 08:04 PM
So, the key in a manual is about rolling off of the throttle slightly before the shift and rolling back on after.

Always, push the clutch in all the way, and always take your foot off the clutch in between shifts. It's proper form (and the whole point of the dead pedal).

THIS is all that needs to be said. None of that crappy info up there.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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skill
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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^agreed
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