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I am surprised
Wow, I am really surprised. Well, it seems this is America. I am living in Germany (Munich) and I am 25 years old. I bought my s2k when I was 23, and this is really very early compared with other people owning a s2k here in Germany.
When I was 16 I never even thought of cars (we make our driving license with the age of 18).
The s2k is quite critical compared to other cars especially in wet conditions. Perhaps we think different here in Germany, but I cannot believe a 16 old gets a car with 240 hp !!! And then even aks for a turbo kit !!
With your age you cannot really have enough driving experience to drive a s2k with a turbo kit installed. The s2k is a damn weapon even without turbo.
Nothing against you. As said before I am just very impressed and surprised. I wish you very good luck and always good and save driving, nevertheless, I am quite happy about to know that here in Germany no kids drive around with a 240 hp car. I don't know if I could sleep and go to work well, keeping in mind that my girl friend, friends and family are driving around or running down a street.....
But perhaps you americans are more consciously and better drivers than Germans are with 16 years (18 years in case of driving)....
just my two bucks.....
Phillip
When I was 16 I never even thought of cars (we make our driving license with the age of 18).
The s2k is quite critical compared to other cars especially in wet conditions. Perhaps we think different here in Germany, but I cannot believe a 16 old gets a car with 240 hp !!! And then even aks for a turbo kit !!
With your age you cannot really have enough driving experience to drive a s2k with a turbo kit installed. The s2k is a damn weapon even without turbo.
Nothing against you. As said before I am just very impressed and surprised. I wish you very good luck and always good and save driving, nevertheless, I am quite happy about to know that here in Germany no kids drive around with a 240 hp car. I don't know if I could sleep and go to work well, keeping in mind that my girl friend, friends and family are driving around or running down a street.....
But perhaps you americans are more consciously and better drivers than Germans are with 16 years (18 years in case of driving)....
just my two bucks.....
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Phillip - just out of curiosity, what training are German drivers required to receive before they can obtain a drivers license?
Here in the states kids learn by driving a 140hp family sedan with automatic transmission around a high school parking lot and through suburbs over a few weeks. This highly rigorous training is administered by a burned out high school health / phys ed instructor.
After they answer 30 multiple choice questions and show they can parallel park they are allowed to buy a 911 turbo if they have the cash.
Here in the states kids learn by driving a 140hp family sedan with automatic transmission around a high school parking lot and through suburbs over a few weeks. This highly rigorous training is administered by a burned out high school health / phys ed instructor.
After they answer 30 multiple choice questions and show they can parallel park they are allowed to buy a 911 turbo if they have the cash.
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snoopy - not to mention, the driving tests have been 'unconstitutional' since they are only offered in English. (no joke!)
ursuppe, I agree. I actually feel that you should learn how to drive this car and not just drive it off the lot and learn haphazardly. I think other cars that I've had in the past: Talon AWD Turbo, Miata, Mustang, etc. They've all been very forgiving cars and cars you can push without getting into too much trouble.
ursuppe, I agree. I actually feel that you should learn how to drive this car and not just drive it off the lot and learn haphazardly. I think other cars that I've had in the past: Talon AWD Turbo, Miata, Mustang, etc. They've all been very forgiving cars and cars you can push without getting into too much trouble.
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Well, I have heard of the us driving school
. Here in Germany you must pay a lot of money and you really go to a driving school. Getting a driving license in Germany costs about $1500 - $2000 !! You have to take 10 Lessons (1 hour) for sure to make the license which is a theoretical test + driving test. Most people have about 30-40 hours until they can make the test. This test (theory) is quite hard and you have to learn a lot. Driving test is even harder and as soon as I know about 50% fail in the first test. You have to drive for about 45 minutes, and even the smallest failure quits you !!
So getting a license in Germany takes about 3-4 Months (people having a lot of time manage in 2,5 months) you have to pay a lot of money and you have to make theory and practice tests which are quite hard.
And after such an intensive training no one in Germany says it's good to own a 240 hp car with the age of 18. When I received my s2k I had 5 years of driving experiance with all sorts of cars, I drove about 50.000 km and I was really surprised how tricky the s2k is to drive.
But, here in Germany you can drive with about 150 mph without risking your license, in US 55 mph is the limit as far as I remember from school.... But nevertheless, for me it is unbelievable.....and very dangerous.
Phillip
Well, I have heard of the us driving school
. Here in Germany you must pay a lot of money and you really go to a driving school. Getting a driving license in Germany costs about $1500 - $2000 !! You have to take 10 Lessons (1 hour) for sure to make the license which is a theoretical test + driving test. Most people have about 30-40 hours until they can make the test. This test (theory) is quite hard and you have to learn a lot. Driving test is even harder and as soon as I know about 50% fail in the first test. You have to drive for about 45 minutes, and even the smallest failure quits you !!So getting a license in Germany takes about 3-4 Months (people having a lot of time manage in 2,5 months) you have to pay a lot of money and you have to make theory and practice tests which are quite hard.
And after such an intensive training no one in Germany says it's good to own a 240 hp car with the age of 18. When I received my s2k I had 5 years of driving experiance with all sorts of cars, I drove about 50.000 km and I was really surprised how tricky the s2k is to drive.
But, here in Germany you can drive with about 150 mph without risking your license, in US 55 mph is the limit as far as I remember from school.... But nevertheless, for me it is unbelievable.....and very dangerous.
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Originally posted by ursuppe
@Snoopy
Well, I have heard of the us driving school. Here in Germany you must pay a lot of money and you really go to a driving school. Getting a driving license in Germany costs about $1500 - $2000 !! You have to take 10 Lessons (1 hour) for sure to make the license which is a theoretical test + driving test. Most people have about 30-40 hours until they can make the test. This test (theory) is quite hard and you have to learn a lot. Driving test is even harder and as soon as I know about 50% fail in the first test. You have to drive for about 45 minutes, and even the smallest failure quits you !!
So getting a license in Germany takes about 3-4 Months (people having a lot of time manage in 2,5 months) you have to pay a lot of money and you have to make theory and practice tests which are quite hard.
And after such an intensive training no one in Germany says it's good to own a 240 hp car with the age of 18. When I received my s2k I had 5 years of driving experiance with all sorts of cars, I drove about 50.000 km and I was really surprised how tricky the s2k is to drive.
But, here in Germany you can drive with about 150 mph without risking your license, in US 55 mph is the limit as far as I remember from school.... But nevertheless, for me it is unbelievable.....and very dangerous.
Phillip
@Snoopy
Well, I have heard of the us driving school
. Here in Germany you must pay a lot of money and you really go to a driving school. Getting a driving license in Germany costs about $1500 - $2000 !! You have to take 10 Lessons (1 hour) for sure to make the license which is a theoretical test + driving test. Most people have about 30-40 hours until they can make the test. This test (theory) is quite hard and you have to learn a lot. Driving test is even harder and as soon as I know about 50% fail in the first test. You have to drive for about 45 minutes, and even the smallest failure quits you !!So getting a license in Germany takes about 3-4 Months (people having a lot of time manage in 2,5 months) you have to pay a lot of money and you have to make theory and practice tests which are quite hard.
And after such an intensive training no one in Germany says it's good to own a 240 hp car with the age of 18. When I received my s2k I had 5 years of driving experiance with all sorts of cars, I drove about 50.000 km and I was really surprised how tricky the s2k is to drive.
But, here in Germany you can drive with about 150 mph without risking your license, in US 55 mph is the limit as far as I remember from school.... But nevertheless, for me it is unbelievable.....and very dangerous.
Phillip
Now I'm curious as to the cost of your car insurance?
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Hey!
Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!?! HELL NO!!
I'm only 23 and I own a SC'd s2000. My first car(when I was 16) was a 944 Porsche. Sure it was crap, but it was fast. I killed the clutch in it too, but didn't kill anyone, never even got a speeding ticket (not that I didn't ever have fun with it). My next car at age 19 was a Civic EX. Guess what, turboed and modded the crap out of it. Still didn't kill anyone, but I did get a couple of tickets. Nothing major though and definitely didn't ever get in an accident. At age 21 I bought a 99 Honda CBR 600F4. Only 104hp, but it was only pushing 400lbs of machine around. 0-60(mph for all the germans in this thread) in 3.5sec. The only ticket I ever got on that bad boy was a ticket for not wearing eye protection while I was toying around in a parking lot. Still no deaths and no wrecks.
Now I drive an S2000 and fly fast jets. Still haven't killed anyone. The only weapon I have has two AB'ing Pratt and Whitney TurboFans on it. And I STILL haven't killed anyone, but I'm working on that.
Just because you are young doesn't mean you are automatically stupid. Kids can be really smart and very responsible. In the AF we trust 18 year old kids with everything from handling M-16's, to working on those jet engines I talked about earlier. They have lives in their hands everyday. I don't think that two years ago those same kids were reckless maniacs that couldn't handle a 240hp car. I know I wasn't. Neither were a bunch of the people who subscribe to this board.
Sorry if that sounded too harsh. I love Germany, I hope to get stationed there someday. You've got some sweet machines I'd like to get my hands on and take to the autobahn!
Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!?! HELL NO!!
I'm only 23 and I own a SC'd s2000. My first car(when I was 16) was a 944 Porsche. Sure it was crap, but it was fast. I killed the clutch in it too, but didn't kill anyone, never even got a speeding ticket (not that I didn't ever have fun with it). My next car at age 19 was a Civic EX. Guess what, turboed and modded the crap out of it. Still didn't kill anyone, but I did get a couple of tickets. Nothing major though and definitely didn't ever get in an accident. At age 21 I bought a 99 Honda CBR 600F4. Only 104hp, but it was only pushing 400lbs of machine around. 0-60(mph for all the germans in this thread) in 3.5sec. The only ticket I ever got on that bad boy was a ticket for not wearing eye protection while I was toying around in a parking lot. Still no deaths and no wrecks.
Now I drive an S2000 and fly fast jets. Still haven't killed anyone. The only weapon I have has two AB'ing Pratt and Whitney TurboFans on it. And I STILL haven't killed anyone, but I'm working on that.
Just because you are young doesn't mean you are automatically stupid. Kids can be really smart and very responsible. In the AF we trust 18 year old kids with everything from handling M-16's, to working on those jet engines I talked about earlier. They have lives in their hands everyday. I don't think that two years ago those same kids were reckless maniacs that couldn't handle a 240hp car. I know I wasn't. Neither were a bunch of the people who subscribe to this board.
Sorry if that sounded too harsh. I love Germany, I hope to get stationed there someday. You've got some sweet machines I'd like to get my hands on and take to the autobahn!