if an s2000 could handle like my car
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Originally Posted by flyingtoaster,Dec 16 2010, 05:24 PM
The S2000 steering feels uncomfortably heavy and unresponsive, and I have had an Integra GSR with a manual steering rack.
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Originally Posted by bax4bux,Dec 16 2010, 08:20 AM
"Do not exceed Grip"?? 
I know that driving smooth like Jenson Button is fast, but being able to dance with the car like Hamilton is even faster. Ok, maybe this is arguable.
I think that track driving is different than a narrow mountain road, ie more room for mistakes on a track, and i realize that the description in my previous reply could have some variables. Probably the biggest is tires.
My Azenis' rarely give any audio feedback. It's just the steering feedback and the seat, and the car's/driver's ability to steer with the throttle. When you are driving this way on a road that you haven't been on before, or rarely, it can get interesting. I'm sure a lot of you have been there. That's where I wonder how the S with behave.
But I think a number of replys have already answered the question; the Miata has a slight edge in this department, but the S is better everywhere else (looks aside). Thanks all for the replys on how to tune the tail on the S. Now if I can just get an S owner to let me test their's in the twisties...
I know that driving smooth like Jenson Button is fast, but being able to dance with the car like Hamilton is even faster. Ok, maybe this is arguable.I think that track driving is different than a narrow mountain road, ie more room for mistakes on a track, and i realize that the description in my previous reply could have some variables. Probably the biggest is tires.
My Azenis' rarely give any audio feedback. It's just the steering feedback and the seat, and the car's/driver's ability to steer with the throttle. When you are driving this way on a road that you haven't been on before, or rarely, it can get interesting. I'm sure a lot of you have been there. That's where I wonder how the S with behave.
But I think a number of replys have already answered the question; the Miata has a slight edge in this department, but the S is better everywhere else (looks aside). Thanks all for the replys on how to tune the tail on the S. Now if I can just get an S owner to let me test their's in the twisties...
I can't speak for others but the S2000 does not seem as wild as people make it out to be. I have shared with you my first-hand experience so you can choose to ignore it if it suits you. I'd only try to kill myself trying to make the fastest lap times if someone was paying me top dollar and was sponsoring me with a race car.
A man can dream.
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Originally Posted by 2wheelsmoker,Dec 16 2010, 11:39 PM
I have shared with you my first-hand experience so you can choose to ignore it if it suits you. I'd only try to kill myself trying to make the fastest lap times if someone was paying me top dollar and was sponsoring me with a race car. A man can dream.
A man can dream.Everyone will drive their car to the degree that suits them. But everyone that thinks they're totally in control may rarely find themselves out-of-control for a variety of reasons. That's one of the reasons why I like to explore the limits of a car. Your reactions need to be hardwired into your memory and that takes lots of practice. Unfortunately I can't afford much track time.
Now I'm risking sounding like a know-it-all which I'm not. I'm sure most on this forum know more than I do.
I hear ya on being a paid professional. I wish I started karting when I was a kid.
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Just another thing to point out, after tracking numerous times ,mountain driving became less thrilling for me due to inherent risks. It's more fun to drive fast when you know you won't wreck or die from going too fast. I was quite reckless in my young age and I'm happy to still be here to tell others there's more fun to be had from other venues.
My advice, take in the weather, enjoy controllable speeds, and test your limits at the track. Speed surely is fun, but not worth pushing absolute limits on the street when you have a family a provide for, a mortgage to pay, and a business to run. Getting older, you start putting things into perspective so I don't blame other "thrill-seekers" cuz I've been there and done that.
I just hope they make it out in one piece like I did.
My advice, take in the weather, enjoy controllable speeds, and test your limits at the track. Speed surely is fun, but not worth pushing absolute limits on the street when you have a family a provide for, a mortgage to pay, and a business to run. Getting older, you start putting things into perspective so I don't blame other "thrill-seekers" cuz I've been there and done that.
I just hope they make it out in one piece like I did.
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Originally Posted by bax4bux,Dec 17 2010, 01:05 PM
That's one of the reasons why I like to explore the limits of a car. Your reactions need to be hardwired into your memory and that takes lots of practice. Unfortunately I can't afford much track time.
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then you haven't seen me drive on the street. probably a good thing otherwise you'd be writing down my plate # 
but i understand the track is the better venue.
Sorry, i didn't mean to change the topic of the thread, which now seems dead.
but i understand the track is the better venue.Sorry, i didn't mean to change the topic of the thread, which now seems dead.
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Originally Posted by bax4bux,Dec 16 2010, 05:44 PM
Do you mean it feels that way with power steering, or did you disconnect the power steering on your S?
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