it's snowing and very difficult to drive
Originally Posted by typer0085,Dec 20 2004, 02:30 AM
......(i'm a poor kid and can't afford snow tires) but it was even worse than I imagined........
If you've decided to drive you S during the winter, go and borrow money from your love ones or use your credit card. The few hundred dollars you spend will save you thousands or even your life (or other people's lives).
A few hundred dollars...? It sounds like a great bargain to me

Don't be cheap...be safe!
Originally Posted by ZRPM,Dec 20 2004, 01:47 PM
What's the wear and tear like from winter driving? I think I will get a winter beater, just because I know how many rock chips you can get on Calgary roads. Do you have chipguard on the front?
I also live on a slight hill, and today was a challenge getting out with my FWD EL... (know anyo who wants to buy one?)
I also live on a slight hill, and today was a challenge getting out with my FWD EL... (know anyo who wants to buy one?)
My car is in its 5th winter now and in the spring, after I clean it up and put on another coat of Zaino, you would be hard pressed to see that it is a 5 year old car. I am often frustrated by posters here who do not understand an owner's responsibility to any winter driven automobile or do not or cannot ever master the driving techniques needed to operate this car under such conditions. We often see statements like:
"You can't drive this car in winter - too light, no traction because it's RWD, no ground clearance - yada, yada, yada!"
"You'll beat the car up bad with rocks chips and it'll rust away because of all the salt - yada, yada, yada!"
"You may be a good driver but what about others? I'm not going to risk getting my S2000 run into by some other bozo." Then they promptly tell us how they have a $50,000.00 SUV that they would prefer to have run into by those other bozos.
My response is generally ........................
times 10.
Originally Posted by wing,Dec 20 2004, 04:20 PM
At about 0 celcius the tires are useless you have to be VERY carefull. During the winter our average temperature is well below that, maybe -15 average. Going forward and turning slowly is fine, but as you stated, stopping is just horrible.
I'm always glad to see Xviper pointing out that he's driven it constantly with the right shoes every winter. I'm odd, i think that properly shod, well balanced RWD performance cars can make for good fun in the white stuff.
Originally Posted by xviper,Dec 20 2004, 01:48 PM
As with the necessity of snow tires for our winter time driving, owners of such cars must also take some responsibility for protecting the car from the environmental damage that routinely occurs. Yes, I have Xpel 3M Scotchcal film on all forward facing surfaces of my car. I also routinely hose out the underside of the car when I wash it. I plug in the block heater when I gets really cold to ensure that the engine suffers minimally on those cold weather starts. I check the engine coolant to make sure it is up to the task of extreme cold weather operation and I also use winter windshield anti-freeze.
My car is in its 5th winter now and in the spring, after I clean it up and put on another coat of Zaino, you would be hard pressed to see that it is a 5 year old car. I am often frustrated by posters here who do not understand an owner's responsibility to any winter driven automobile or do not or cannot ever master the driving techniques needed to operate this car under such conditions. We often see statements like:
"You can't drive this car in winter - too light, no traction because it's RWD, no ground clearance - yada, yada, yada!"
"You'll beat the car up bad with rocks chips and it'll rust away because of all the salt - yada, yada, yada!"
"You may be a good driver but what about others? I'm not going to risk getting my S2000 run into by some other bozo." Then they promptly tell us how they have a $50,000.00 SUV that they would prefer to have run into by those other bozos.
My response is generally ........................
times 10.
My car is in its 5th winter now and in the spring, after I clean it up and put on another coat of Zaino, you would be hard pressed to see that it is a 5 year old car. I am often frustrated by posters here who do not understand an owner's responsibility to any winter driven automobile or do not or cannot ever master the driving techniques needed to operate this car under such conditions. We often see statements like:
"You can't drive this car in winter - too light, no traction because it's RWD, no ground clearance - yada, yada, yada!"
"You'll beat the car up bad with rocks chips and it'll rust away because of all the salt - yada, yada, yada!"
"You may be a good driver but what about others? I'm not going to risk getting my S2000 run into by some other bozo." Then they promptly tell us how they have a $50,000.00 SUV that they would prefer to have run into by those other bozos.
My response is generally ........................
times 10.
Originally Posted by ZRPM,Dec 20 2004, 04:42 PM
it is after all a 50/50 weight distribution 

Don't forget to add some weight in the trunk. A couple of 50 pound bags of sand really help. But they do lift the front enough to require a headlight lowering (read the book).
I marked the wall, threw in the sand and readjusted the lights. Keep the number of turns on the screw to crank back in the spring.
Also keep in mind the limited slip diff is tough to use on ice. When one wheel slips it takes the other one with it
The back totally loosens up. Reg differential is better on ice.
I use mine all winter here in central "Joysey". Just have to be careful.
I marked the wall, threw in the sand and readjusted the lights. Keep the number of turns on the screw to crank back in the spring.
Also keep in mind the limited slip diff is tough to use on ice. When one wheel slips it takes the other one with it
The back totally loosens up. Reg differential is better on ice.I use mine all winter here in central "Joysey". Just have to be careful.
Originally Posted by xviper,Dec 20 2004, 12:59 PM
A former Calgarian? 
While I lived there I had four cars: 1972 Charger, 1981 Z28, 1987 Iroc-Z, 1989 Supra Turbo. I drove each of them all year 'round, usually with Comp T/As as my tires. All three got me back and forth to Sunshine and Louise more times than I can count. Only got freaked out once, in the Supra. The car felt like it was drifting due to wind around Lac des Arcs (sp?), then I realized it was actually drifting on black ice when I tried to change lanes and found myself going sideways down the TC. Got it back (steer into the skid) and just took it easy the rest of the way home.
I figure if I could get around the city in those cars I could probably handle it in the S.
I find it hilarious when people in Portland can't believe I can drive around without chains or studs for the one day a year we get snow.
PM me and we (well I) can reminisce some more.
Originally Posted by gbaker,Dec 20 2004, 09:18 PM
Don't forget to add some weight in the trunk. A couple of 50 pound bags of sand really help. But they do lift the front enough to require a headlight lowering (read the book).
I marked the wall, threw in the sand and readjusted the lights. Keep the number of turns on the screw to crank back in the spring.
Also keep in mind the limited slip diff is tough to use on ice. When one wheel slips it takes the other one with it
The back totally loosens up. Reg differential is better on ice.
I use mine all winter here in central "Joysey". Just have to be careful.
I marked the wall, threw in the sand and readjusted the lights. Keep the number of turns on the screw to crank back in the spring.
Also keep in mind the limited slip diff is tough to use on ice. When one wheel slips it takes the other one with it
The back totally loosens up. Reg differential is better on ice.I use mine all winter here in central "Joysey". Just have to be careful.

Originally Posted by typer0085,Dec 19 2004, 11:30 PM
It's 2:30 in the morning and I just got home from a 25 minute ride that usually takes only 6-7 minutes normally.
It's the first snow of the year here on Long Island and also my first winter with the S. All I can say is WOW. I expected the worst with the car in the snow, (i'm a poor kid and can't afford snow tires) but it was even worse than I imagined. I literally drove 10 miles an hour and if I went much faster the car would lose control and start sliding around all by herself. There's only maybe an inch or so on the ground.
Well it seems that I'll certainly be saving up for some winter tires for next winter, and I'll be staying off the roads in any inclement weather. I advise anyone without winter tires to do the same.
The point of this post can be summed up in the following...Be safe everyone.
It's the first snow of the year here on Long Island and also my first winter with the S. All I can say is WOW. I expected the worst with the car in the snow, (i'm a poor kid and can't afford snow tires) but it was even worse than I imagined. I literally drove 10 miles an hour and if I went much faster the car would lose control and start sliding around all by herself. There's only maybe an inch or so on the ground.
Well it seems that I'll certainly be saving up for some winter tires for next winter, and I'll be staying off the roads in any inclement weather. I advise anyone without winter tires to do the same.
The point of this post can be summed up in the following...Be safe everyone.



