im not going to diss the car until i pass it on the track!

 

cdelena is right.. powerband is king... high peak numbers get attention, but as far as the track goes, midrange is king... As far as lowering the redline, this would make sense.. our engine already runs incredibly hot. With an overbore (or change of internals, I don't know which they did...), the engine will be burning at even more intense temps. I still don't know how HondaTwincam made that 2.3 keep the 9K redline without overheating, all I know is I want one Then you'll pass the new s2 on the track...

 

I imagine they stroked the engine to increase the displacement. The longer stroke would necessitate a lower peak engine speed. Mean piston speed is 2* peak engine speed * stroke.

Brake Mean Effective Pressure is all that matters not peak bhp. One must have power throughout the rpm band and the S2000 should be all the better IF the engine does not run roughly due to the increase in stroke at the higher engine speeds. Also, it would benefit from cam phasing as with the K20 Series engines.

 

It was posted here before that Japan will get both the F20C and the new 2.2l version of the S2000, sold side by side.

The big news for me is the OEM 17" tire sizes. This hopefully means I can finally upgrade to 17" wheels and not lose out on grip with OEM spec S-02's. Of course, time will tell, as with all else.

 

22.2 Kg/m*((2.2lbs/kg)*(3.1ft/m))=151ft*lbs plus change. Man not much torque still, however I hope the curve is smother and longer.

Sam

 

If Honda ruins this car by no serious updates like the NSX, I will leave S2ki.com for good.

 

Is there any chance the 2004 S2000/S2200 would be "crippled" or have its specifications fictionalized for certification by the Ministry of Transportation?

Isn't there a "gentlemens' agreement" regarding a domestic market power output in Japan (I thought it was 280-ps but maybe it's 250-ps)? Anybody else have any knowledge of this?

My understanding was that output for high performance engines was ALWAYS understated when submitted for certification in Japan.

 

Actually, the "gentlemans agreement" regarding motor output is no longer in force. The auto manufacturers are no longer bound by the hp cap and can post the actual hp numbers that the motor is making.

 

Bwahahha!!

Maybe Honda was so concerned at dominating the small Tsukuba track that they made everything for lower speeds .

 

How can you ruin a car by not updating it? It still performs just as well as it always has if there were no updates. It may be surpassed by the competition, but that affect the performance of the current model. The NSX is still an amazing car, but it has been surpassed in many ways by the competition at that price point. That doesn't mean it's not a great car though, just maybe not the best for that price.