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Old May 2, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Could somebody please tell me whether or not laser jammers, not detectors, are illegal? Or better yet, are they legal in any states? If they are legal, does anybody know any stores that might carry them besides online stores? Thanks for your time!

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Old May 2, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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Here you go...

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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Damn, illegal in CA!...grrr...love the area, but hate all the restrictions.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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Is there any way they can tell if your "jamming?"
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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by oakfloor,May 2 2005, 11:15 AM
Is there any way they can tell if your "jamming?"
I am sure that an experienced operator would know if something fishy was happening to his gun. Whether or not that is grounds for him to stop you I do not know but I imagine a scenario such as one of these:

1) You're driving your STOCK S2000 along at approx. 85mph in an area with a posted limit of 65mph, and you're running a full setup of hidden jammers/detectors. The officer's gun freaks out or doesn't give a reading as you pass him and as such he initiates a stop. He questions you about your speed and the use of a jammer, but you deny such behavior and/or the lack of any "equipment". With none visible and no actual evidence of speeding I would imagine that you would be let go with no citations.

2) You're cruising along in your HEAVILY modded Mugen/Spoon/J's Racing S2000 with a host of cosmetic changes and a fairly loud aftermarket exhaust doing 85mph in an area with a posted limit of 65mph running a full setup of hidden jammers/detectors...

...The scenario would most likely play out as the first except you may drive off with a handful of citations for other things aside from speeding, and have to deal with a bunch of harrasment.

The important thing is that if you run with these jammers that they be concealed from plain view (or hidden completely). The police cannot legally search your vehicle for merely a speeding infraction (at least not in FL). They have to have "reasonable cause" to search without your consent (odor/evidence of drugs for example).

Another factor here is "plausible deniability". If you're speeding along (jamming) on an isolated road with no other cars present it will be a lot harder to convince the officer that you're innocent of any interference. If you are stopped on a moderately busy road/highway than it would be much easier to contend that it "wasn't you" and it must've been coming from another vehicle!!!


Just my .02 cents on the topic. I'm pretty much talking out my ass here because I am not 100% familiar with traffic laws around the country, but I think I am at least in the ballpark.

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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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Thank you very much RR. Can you please tell me where you quoted that information from? Thanks!

Ryan
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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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I got nailed by a laser a few weekends ago. Not only was travelling the normal speed for this road (75mph at 285 in ga), I was not passing anybody, not in the left lane, and not in the front of the group I was in. The cop turned his lights on, PASSED me (at which point I thought I was safe) to follow a yellow focus for a few seconds, then apparently noticed that a nice shiney S was behind him and slowed down to pull me over. What a crock. I'm all about jamming, hiding, scrambling, or whatever now.

The only popular laser product that I know of now is Passports laser shifter. I think it runs around $300 and mounts two lenses on the front and the back. It's not a jammer though. I wonder if there are any reputable jammers out there that aren't bogus or some cheazy company's attempt at getting into the market. My V1 is good, but when it sees laser, it's usually a notification that you're screwed at that point.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ro_Ja Boy,May 2 2005, 08:58 AM
Thank you very much RR. Can you please tell me where you quoted that information from? Thanks!

Ryan
Got it from http://www.jammersstore.com/
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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyclon36,May 2 2005, 09:01 AM
The only popular laser product that I know of now is Passports laser shifter. I think it runs around $300 and mounts two lenses on the front and the back. It's not a jammer though. I wonder if there are any reputable jammers out there that aren't bogus or some cheazy company's attempt at getting into the market. My V1 is good, but when it sees laser, it's usually a notification that you're screwed at that point.
Some more info on Shifter Vs. Jammer

Escort Shifter ZR3 linked with Passport 8500
No longer available via the web. You will be redirected to our home page.

There are many companies out there claiming that they have the ultimate laser jamming solution that will make you vehicle immune to laser guns. Almost all of the units we have tested are completely useless. The one big exception is the Escort Shifter ZR3 Laser Defense System. Leave it up to Escort to create a product that not only works but kicks butt in just about every test thrown at it.
Here's how it works: There are three sensor modules mounted on our vehicle; two up front and one in the rear. When a LIDAR laser signal is detected by the ZR3, it responds with a pulsed laser signal in order to "Shift" or confuse the targeting LIDAR gun. It doesn't "jam" the laser, but rather, it sends back a signal that is unreadable by the laser gun.
The ZR3 System comes complete with two front laser transceivers, one rear laser transceiver, an in-car display controller that can be mounted just about anywhere in or on your dash, a remote mute button, a 12-volt interface with modular connections, complete wiring harnesses, and all the mounting hardware you will need. In addition, you can broaden the depth of system by adding the award winning Passport 8500 radar/laser detector. A "link" cable is included that makes adding your 8500 a snap.
How is this legal while Radar Jammers are not? Radar devices are controlled by the FCC (Federal Communication Commision), they have ruled that any device that interferes with a Police Radar Gun is illegal. Lasers, on the other hand, are governed by the FDA (Food and Drug Administration), which currently has no laws against jamming lasers.
One standout feature that we really like is that the compact display unit mounts discretely in your dash. In addition, the remote mute button makes it super stealthy and easy to use while keeping your eyes on the road.
*This unit needs to be installed. If you are not comfortable running wires in your car, bring it in to a local mechanic or car alarm install company for painless installation.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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I currently have such a system installed on the S and it works great.(See pic) The front sensors detect the laser and jam it. Theres another sensor over the rear plate and another 'just' under the front plate for the radar detection. This is the Passport SRX system.

As I've used detetors since the early 80's I had a hard time deciding on the system to use with the S. The V1 and 8500 models merely TELL you when it's all over but the screaming, and I couldn't see laying out 400+ for a box to instantly tell me I'm screwed. So the extra money was well worth it considering my driving style.

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So further to Cyclon36's post, Yes these DO block lasers and quite well as I can atest to 20+ times I've been targeted & hit. All instances I've been doing 20MPH+ over the limit and have never been pulled over yet. To say nothing of the unbelievable distance in detection I get from this unit on radars signals.

Check the results on the remote systems testing



Another remote system test result page



And as a closing note CrazyPhuD is just wrong. I drive it, use it, and it works. Period.

The radar jammers ARE illeagal and don't work, these systems however do.
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