Well that proves we don't disagree on everything.

My point is that the 'Acura' argument is irrelevant as it doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. In Japan (and everywhere except the US) the NSX is a Honda. It is (or was) made in the same plant as the S.

You know my opinion on these rumours and theories. They are generally sound logic built on shaky premises and directed more by the whim of the theorist than actual facts. So if I were to enter into this sort of calculation I would be using the NSX as a much stronger parallel than various other Honda models.

 

[QUOTE=rworne,Oct 22 2004, 10:06 AM] 2003 was the last year of the S2000.

 

Not argued.. thats fact... The S2000 was made to commemorate the 50th anniv. of Honda.

 

Wow you got home way before me

 

The "Acura" argument is relevent.. the NSX which is also marketed in the US as an Acura, and the Integra.. are the only two Honda's that have a long lived body style in the Honda lineup that I am aware of... If Honda had intentions of the S2k doing this, to me they would have marketed it as an Acura.. then again how would the smart citizens of the US understand the Acura S2000 to commemorate Honda's birthday..

 

Without beating it to death, the reason I say 'Honda/Acura' division isn't relevant is because it doesn't really exist. At least not outside the minds of AHM marketeers and a gullible proportion of the american public.

They are all Hondas. You can't just discount them enmass because some marketing bozo slapped a different badge on them. Particularly when some of them have more in common with the S2000 than any other Honda.

I ask you this question: If you were to walk into a Honda showroom in Japan and find the car which has the most in common with the S2000 what would it be?

 

The car WAS going to be an Acura untill Dick Colliver took over for Rich Thomas. The move to Honda was an 11th hour change and all the R&D was done, some sections of the manual were even printed. Colliver was the head of Am. Honda and Thomas was in charge of the Acura division. When Colliver was made head of both sides, he "annexed" the S2000 for the Honda Division. I hear that he thought they would bring it out as a Honda first, then change the engine (add a V-6) and make an Acura version of the car. The engineers patiently explained to him that the S2000 is not a flexible chassis like the Accord chassis and a engine swap wouldn't work. I believe I've told this story several times over the last 5 years, and several time in response to you AusS2000 (this is a public service for the new guys)

Aus, the cars may be largely the same, but there is a big difference in customer service, after the sale service, and the overall dealership atmosphere. I believe this is some of what my clients are buying. I also don't believe for a minute that they (customers) don't know that Acura and Honda are the same. In my presentations, I always talk about Mr. Honda.

 

Hey Aus, we joined on the same day!

 

Hi Colin, yep that was day one. I haven't seen many of the single digit user no. about. Wish there was a list.

I don't remember seeing your response before but allow me to edit it a tad (just for fun).

[QUOTE]The car WAS going to be an Acura in the USuntill Dick Colliver took over for Rich Thomas.

 

With the sports car segment booming, Honda just starting to advertise its compact tuner car heritage, Honda