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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Aug 9 2006, 07:28 AM
I think C&D is pretty much the only magazine that really understands the car - writers at the other mags are all showing their age and their preference for softer cars as they age.


Car and Driver has always had a soft spot for the S2k and always has. Heck, one of their editors races one (and they did an article about it.) In fact, it has become somewhat of a benchmark car for them, I've seen it referenced several times recently, which is not to shabby for a 7 year old car.

R&T isn't quite as good, but I don't think they hold a negative opinion of the S2k. I'm pretty sure one of their writers (Sam Mitani) really likes it, and it did well in all its comparisons. Of course R&T isn't as Honda friendly as C and D .

And I don't even really know why I still receive MT... I guess old habits die hard.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chazmo,Aug 8 2006, 10:52 PM
I'm not sure what they're saying now, but I don't recall anything recent that was particularly negative.



To me...it almost seems like the press thinks the car was discontinued in 2004. I can't remember seeing any press on the S2K after that model year.

Maybe we should remind them that Honda is still manufacturing the S2000 and we them for it!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Twonius,Aug 8 2006, 07:52 PM
in 6th gear at 70 there is still enough torque to pull around a semi with gusto.. sure it won't throw you back in your seat but thats why they invented heel toe downshifts.
I'm not quite sure you actually know what a heel toe downshift is. I think some driving classes should be in your future and then you can really rave about how great this car is.


As for the mags, most of the reviews I have read have been extremely favorable. At the same time I feel as most of the other posters in this thread, what someone else thinks about this car has no bearing on my enjoyment of it. I have owned this car for almost 3 years now and I am smiling everytime I pull it out of the garage. Hows that for a review...
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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[QUOTE=44Runner,Aug 9 2006, 01:24 PM] I'm not quite sure you actually know what a heel toe downshift is.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cthemall123,Aug 8 2006, 05:39 PM
undriveable??
maybe if those people at C&D, MT, R&T go on a subway diet and loose about 65 lbs they will have a different opinion about the S2000..

this is exactly why i dont ever read american based car mags.

watch this clip.. this is what the British have to say about the S2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVUD4jsBD24
thats because the british can fit in the car
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cthemall123,Aug 8 2006, 06:39 PM
undriveable??
maybe if those people at C&D, MT, R&T go on a subway diet and loose about 65 lbs they will have a different opinion about the S2000..
lol only fatties complain about lack of torque!!
jk jk
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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www.windingroad.com is a web magazine that is asking for suggestions re: the most underrated car on the road. I'd suggest emailing them.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Sorry .. meant double clutch..
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AlX Boi,Aug 8 2006, 05:36 PM
exactly which media are you talking about? Car & Driver had the S on their 10 best in 2004, and maybe other years.
Forbes has a well written but rather scathing review of S. All the standard criticism. Statements like these:

"measure the S2000 vs. the more expensive, $40,000 Audi TT Roadster , and you find the Honda's shortcomings a bit more glaring, since the TT manages both low-speed fun and reasonably earnest performance"

some are interesting:

"But in the Honda S2000, because that torque peak is so high...with each upshift from redline you feel the back tires lose their bite, a possibly scary sensation if you feel it with the car pointed even five degrees off center"

and some are outright wrong:

"The cargo space in this car is minuscule, less than the capacity of almost any other car made, including a Corvette or a Porsche 911. "

(911 has even smaller trunk than S)

But then, S somehow made their list of Best 2006 Convertibles, so it's not all bad.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Twonius,Aug 9 2006, 07:54 PM
Sorry .. meant double clutch..
Even still... why would you double clutch just to pass a car on the highway?

I believe the term you're looking for is "rev match/downshift"

Heel/toe is used when you brake and revmatch/downshift at the same time. Double clutching is pretty useless in a car with modern synchros. The only time I double clutch is when I downshift into 1st gear.
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