My S2000 (2001) Taking corners
just don't do what i did.... i was coming from driving a couple of rx-7's and thought that rwd in this thing would be better. came around a corner too fast and over corrected 3 times when the ass slid out then i finally hit the brake because i was shitting myself...
1 it's not safe on the street
2 debris is everywhere and can puncture one of the tires causing more prob
3 traffic around you thinks you are either drunk or being a crazy driver and call the cops on you (it happened when i pulled over because i almost wrecked the car and i was freaked)
but i'm a good driver now
1 it's not safe on the street
2 debris is everywhere and can puncture one of the tires causing more prob
3 traffic around you thinks you are either drunk or being a crazy driver and call the cops on you (it happened when i pulled over because i almost wrecked the car and i was freaked)
but i'm a good driver now
Originally Posted by ZDan,Jan 29 2008, 04:55 AM
Unfortunately for most inexperienced drivers, the response to initial oversteer is to lift off the throttle, which is the wrong thing to do anyway, but is doubly bad in the S2k. Not only does it unload the rears, increasing oversteer, it takes away from this dynamic outside-rear toe-in, further increasing oversteer.
so what IS the appropriate response, now that you've explained why the inexperienced (my response) is wrong?
[QUOTE=thebig33tuna,Jan 29 2008, 08:16 AM] so question... i have had this happen in my ap1 and i let off the gas and turned into the slide, sure enough i flipped back to slide the other way
Correcting for oversteer by the book is
1. Correct: Counter Steer, to full lock if needed
2. Pause: Wait until the car stops swinging out
3. Recover: Bring the steering wheel back from lock toward the normal turn angle
If you only do step 1, you end up in a situation where the rear end swings in the other direction. I did this on a rainy day in a 76 accord many years ago. The rear went left, swung all the way around to the right, then the left again. At that point I knew I wasn't going to save anything and I put the brake on the floor, and stayed on the road, though I did end up facing the wrong way.
It's imporant to remember that once you put both feet in and get the brakes locked, the car goes straight in the current direction of travel.
Best advise is watch the Drift Bible. You dont necessarily need to learn how to drift but in situations like back end kickin out and somewhat loosing control, some minor drifting skills on this car is slightly recommend.
Reading is great, but actually DRIVING is the best way to learn how to...well, drive! Like mentioned above, take the car to an autocross or empty lots and explore its limits in a controlled environment. That's the only way to truly appreciate the car's potential.
The old saying goes: "Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."
You can do all the donuts you want in a parking lot, and you will at least develop a little more feel for the car and a little bit more intuition about car control. But that's no substitute for practice with a plan or for knowing what you are trying to learn.
The best option here is to take a class or hire a professional driving instructor who can really help you learn the right thing to do. Trying to figure it out on your own is ineffecient and relatively dangerous.
Second best is to read up on the theory and technique before (and also after) practicing. Books alone don't teach you to drive, but driving alone doesn't teach you to drive well.
You can do all the donuts you want in a parking lot, and you will at least develop a little more feel for the car and a little bit more intuition about car control. But that's no substitute for practice with a plan or for knowing what you are trying to learn.
The best option here is to take a class or hire a professional driving instructor who can really help you learn the right thing to do. Trying to figure it out on your own is ineffecient and relatively dangerous.
Second best is to read up on the theory and technique before (and also after) practicing. Books alone don't teach you to drive, but driving alone doesn't teach you to drive well.
Originally Posted by S2kDr!fter,Jan 29 2008, 11:50 AM
Best advise is watch the Drift Bible. You dont necessarily need to learn how to drift but in situations like back end kickin out and somewhat loosing control, some minor drifting skills on this car is slightly recommend.
What I have found is that steering alone generally won't get you into trouble, the wrong combination of steering and throttle will.
You want to be smooth with all your inputs-- smooth with inputs of the wheel, smooth to roll onto the gas coming out of corners. That last point is important, esp if you are coming from a FF like I did. You don't want to accelerate this car around corners, you want to accelerate out of corners.
You want to be smooth with all your inputs-- smooth with inputs of the wheel, smooth to roll onto the gas coming out of corners. That last point is important, esp if you are coming from a FF like I did. You don't want to accelerate this car around corners, you want to accelerate out of corners.



