Does the "UK" setup may make your car oversteer at the limit? I wonder if the rear end is more planted, and now your going faster if it will break loose too quick for less expirenced drivers like myself. A little understeer can help, when my MY00 S2K starts to push in a fast corner, its telling me to "ease up" your approaching the limit of your ability. IMHO

 

If anything, UK alignment gives the car less oversteer and is safer for inexperienced drivers. Normally an MY00-01 car will slide the back tires before the front, and if you're already getting understeer, the UK alignment might just make it worse.

Are you running the OEM suspension, wheels, and tires? Under what circumstances are you feeling the front tires slide before the rear tires?


Matt, I'll have to dig through some old files to see if I still have the spreadsheet I used to make the printout for my alignment guy. If I can find it, I'll post it. If you do your own conversions and beat me to it you could just post up your numbers. LOL, remember to check your work.

 

i think the uk spec were for 16" wheels.
when did the s2k change to 17"?

 

Haha, sounds good. And Ill be sure to check my work this time...

 

i think the uk alignment has a bit of understeer built in but its harder to save the car when it does oversteer

 

17" came along in '04.

AND

I've had the UK spec alignment for 4 years or so now. Tail is alot more planted at the limit. Been spreading the word ever since.

-Hockey

 

Thats what I thinkin, a little more driving skill is required.. and for a canyon carver mine goes a lot faster than I can drive it safely with a stock setup.. But I dont think it adds more understeer. Im on AP-1 OEM tires and wheels. The autocross and RR guys have there own setups ETC.

 

I believe the car is easier to recollect once it starts to spin after the UK alignment. The break-a-way point is (maybe, it's hard to be sure) a little more sudden (but not a lot, if at all), but when the tail is sliding out, the extra negative camber is still producing more grip than we get with the standard alignment. This (IMO) makes it MUCH easier to either correct the slide or execute long controlled power slides.

I managed to completely lose control of the car twice before going with the UK alignment, and I've blown some turns just as badly after the UK alignment, but I've always been able to gather it back up (or in the case of one of my Evolution School spins, convert a big slide into a full 360 and keep going).

If anything the UK specs make the car more stable by moving the handing bias away from oversteer, toward understeer. The car remains near neutral but the bias most slightly more toward dead neutral in steady state cornering.

IOM the UK specs make the car easier to drive and safer, but that's just my opinion. For the cost of two alignments you can try it and go back to the base settings if you don't like the results, so it's not like it's expensive to try out or irreversable. I have yet to run into anyone who had tried the UK specs and wanted to go back.

 

Thanks, good advice, im gonna go for it.

 

+1 on that. In two weeks anyways.

-Matt