Nastinupe1 Proudly Defends the S2000!!!
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Nastinupe1 Proudly Defends the S2000!!!
I was sent this message by a Slomaro owner eariler today...
So you bought that S2000, ran it on the dyno and now you wanna tell your buddies how much torque that $30,000 car puts down to the wheels.
Surely they'll laugh when you say "130 ft-lbs" but now with this free online conversion tool you can report your torque in inch pounds! See your friend's faces when you tell them your S2000 puts down 1560 inch-pounds of torque!! O_o o_0
Found this when I had to use an in-lb torque wrench and the diagram was in ft-lbs:
<http://www.onlineconversion.com/torque.htm>
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It's not all about the torque Mr. Veloz. Try running with me through an auto cross course and see if you can keep up. Better yet, try following me on a 270 degree off ramp and see your car get left in my dust. You can make any car go fast, but you have to have a REAL sports car to handle. There is not car 1 under $50,000 (new) sold in the US that can handle as well as the $32,000 S2000. Plus the S2000 has a great resale value. the MY00's still go for $18,000 - $22,000 which means that the car is holding 63% of it's initial value after 4 years. And the new MY04's have larger tires, more torque at 800 RPMs lower, and obtain 240 hp at 800 RPMs lower than the previous model. The 287 hp 350Z with all of it's torque is still slower than the S2000 in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Plus all of this is obtained with a world renowned 4 cylinder engine that needs no FI to produce it's power. Add to that Honda's reliability and workmanship and you have a bargain. I paid $27,000 for my car and there is no sports car under $50,000 (new) that I would even consider trading my car for. Not to mention that I not only purchased a great sports car for $27,000... but a power top convertible as well. Last time I checked, Mustang GT convertibles cost about the same as that.
So you bought that S2000, ran it on the dyno and now you wanna tell your buddies how much torque that $30,000 car puts down to the wheels.
Surely they'll laugh when you say "130 ft-lbs" but now with this free online conversion tool you can report your torque in inch pounds! See your friend's faces when you tell them your S2000 puts down 1560 inch-pounds of torque!! O_o o_0
Found this when I had to use an in-lb torque wrench and the diagram was in ft-lbs:
<http://www.onlineconversion.com/torque.htm>
I sent this message in response...
It's not all about the torque Mr. Veloz. Try running with me through an auto cross course and see if you can keep up. Better yet, try following me on a 270 degree off ramp and see your car get left in my dust. You can make any car go fast, but you have to have a REAL sports car to handle. There is not car 1 under $50,000 (new) sold in the US that can handle as well as the $32,000 S2000. Plus the S2000 has a great resale value. the MY00's still go for $18,000 - $22,000 which means that the car is holding 63% of it's initial value after 4 years. And the new MY04's have larger tires, more torque at 800 RPMs lower, and obtain 240 hp at 800 RPMs lower than the previous model. The 287 hp 350Z with all of it's torque is still slower than the S2000 in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Plus all of this is obtained with a world renowned 4 cylinder engine that needs no FI to produce it's power. Add to that Honda's reliability and workmanship and you have a bargain. I paid $27,000 for my car and there is no sports car under $50,000 (new) that I would even consider trading my car for. Not to mention that I not only purchased a great sports car for $27,000... but a power top convertible as well. Last time I checked, Mustang GT convertibles cost about the same as that.
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There was a Best Motoring race which was showcasing the 350Z. It ran laps against the S2000, a couple of M3's and a Boxster. The S fell back at the beginning but easily overtook all cars except the Z...the reason for this? A camera car (Skyline) taking shots of the Z blocked the S the entire time.
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That and the S driver, as amazing as he is, took a bad turn that cost him a lot of time.
nastinupe1, I think the most sadening thing about your story is that the guy actually needed to go online to find a inch-pound foot-pound converter... Obviously multiplication isn't his strongest arena.
nastinupe1, I think the most sadening thing about your story is that the guy actually needed to go online to find a inch-pound foot-pound converter... Obviously multiplication isn't his strongest arena.
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Be careful not to write checks that the car can't cash.
The S2000, Camaro, and 350Z are classed together in SCCA T2 road race competition. The Camaro is the reigning king of the class, and handed the S2000 its ass in a serious way when people tried campaigning our car. This year, however, a 350Z came in third at the Runoffs and was less than 0.15 seconds off of the fastest lap of the session.
The S2000 is a fantastic combination of power and agility and is an amazing autocross car as a result, but on a road course, power and torque are more important than agility. We can rationalize all we want, but coming off a corner that's too fast for second and too slow for third, both the Camaro and the 350Z will leave us for dead.
Best Motoring races have very little bearing on reality because there are too many variables (different drivers, drivers showboating / drifting, many cars on track blocking each other, only a few laps run, etc., etc.).
Steve
The S2000, Camaro, and 350Z are classed together in SCCA T2 road race competition. The Camaro is the reigning king of the class, and handed the S2000 its ass in a serious way when people tried campaigning our car. This year, however, a 350Z came in third at the Runoffs and was less than 0.15 seconds off of the fastest lap of the session.
The S2000 is a fantastic combination of power and agility and is an amazing autocross car as a result, but on a road course, power and torque are more important than agility. We can rationalize all we want, but coming off a corner that's too fast for second and too slow for third, both the Camaro and the 350Z will leave us for dead.
Best Motoring races have very little bearing on reality because there are too many variables (different drivers, drivers showboating / drifting, many cars on track blocking each other, only a few laps run, etc., etc.).
Steve
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I must admit that the S2000 takes a very skilled driver to handle correctly. She is not an easy car to drive... although a skilled driver can get more out of her than most other cars.
