Just put my girl(01)through her last emissions inspection ever. North Carolina changed its laws from 25 years to 20 this year.

Mod without worry

 

That's a shame.

 

Huh?

 

What's a shame? That you don't have to pass emissions any longer? That someone doesn't have to stress about switching back to stock every year?

My car is stock. But even with kpro it wouldn't pass. As krpo is missing secondary air, and evap. And NC has visuals. So even running just a test pipe and tune on 00-05 would result in emissions failures due to two systems completely not supported when plugged into obdII

 

That's not a direct shot at you @Deckoz and despite my feelings know that I can both understand and appreciate your enthusiasm. While I realize that this likely won't sit well with most here, In my case I am not in favor of easing up on emission restrictions. No matter how anyone populating this planet feels about the technology the ICE is going to be with us for quite a while yet. While I personally tend to greatly enjoy things that employ internal combustion engines, I also try to look at the bigger picture. That includes not only our environment, but also those who would prefer to see the ICE eliminated sooner rather than later no matter how unrealistic that might be.

One only needs to review the impact on pollution resulting from the wide spread reduction of motorized vehicles on our streets around the country during the COVID-19 pandemic to realize how much the ICE contributes to this problem. This event highlighted things to a degree that I myself found surprising. Regardless, lessening restrictions on older cars, in whatever form, makes no more sense to me than does setting unrealistically high restrictions on new cars. I'm personally in favor of a better overall balance. In addition, any loosening of restrictions on older cars at this point is sure to be met by a tighter clampdown in a future response resulting from those who oppose this technology altogether. I would also note that one of those things that has long impressed me about Honda is their approach that performance benchmarks need not be realized exclusive of similar gains made in lowered emissions. This to me is far more impressive than any performance gains made without regard to increased emissions.

 

Fwiw, spend the rest of today trying to spot any 20 year old cars on the road. They are exceedingly rare in my city at least.

 

As they are mine, let alone 20 year old sports cars or something someone is likely to mod to have less emissions equipment .

I can agree with his emissions statement. I get it. But at the same time, this is my fun car. I probably put out more emissions cutting my grass throughout the year, than driving the S...



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I agree, and recall when I was in the Navy and first visited the Philippines. We went out into town off the base, amidst all of the traffic. No cats or any emission control equipment on any vehicles, and the smoke and fumes were terrible! You could hardly breathe! The local bus going up a hill looked like it was on fire, so thick was the cloud emanating from it. I get that smog checks and emission controls on cars are a PITA (I have to have 4 cars smog checked here in Illinois, including my S2000), but, as much as we may dislike them, the emission standards are there for a reason.

 

I can respect that - but if you feel so strongly why do you not drive an electric vehicle? Or ride a bike?

 

Currently I'm not convinced that electric vehicles have less overall impact on the environment than regular vehicles do. I do ride a bike, although in my case it's not very often and mainly used to cruise to my neighborhood pub. Living in the city core, I also actually walk quite a bit as I have access to a large variety of resources within a two mile radius of my home. In addition, I haven't had a commute in more than two years as I work out of my house these days. I figure that I'm balancing things out fairly well.

If that comes across as judgmental, it's really not intended to be. I get that most others don't likely live in the inner-city with the same access to options that I do (nor would many want to, trust me — I get that too). For years, just like most others I was a daily commuter via car or truck long before I ever thought much about any of this stuff. My commute route was actually fairly awesome back in 2000 when I lived in Austin and worked outside of town (it was a far different place then). It actually would have been a great time to own a S2000, but a one-year old put the kibosh on such thoughts. For over four years I commuted exclusively via mass transit here in Portland. Then I commuted almost exclusively via motorcycle for another four years after that. I've pretty much covered all of the bases over time and have no moral high ground to stand on when it comes to this subject.

Like I said, I can understand @Deckoz's feelings along with any others who happen to feel the same. Obviously many were already skirting the previous law so I also understand how futile my stance might seem. I just don't like to see things taking what I see as a step backwards, no matter how insignificant it might seem to some. That's just me stating how I feel, nothing more. Were I located in North Carolina, I'd still leave my car stock. I'd also still be willing to get together for a drive with Deckoz or any others who might take advantage of such a change. I suppose an accurate statement would be that I feel strongly enough about this to at least speak my piece.