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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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So i bought a 2000 model s2000, I had wanted a white with black int with red trim since they came out so I found this one on the lot, they told me they would honda certify it for 2 yrs ad up to 125k miles, I buy the car , the next day some one bumps into the part of the bumper where it meets the fender, ok the next day, 2nd day after i bought it cluch goes out. So since i paid for the honda certified comprehensive coverage i thought it would be covered
So now they are saying wear and tear but are like we could refund our warranty to help pay for the clutch, but i mean i put less than 1k miles on the car and boom no clutch, I thought there was a 30 day warranty on all cars like a lemon law.
I like the car, I am worried if i drop 1500 on the clutch then its going to be something else?
It has a clean car fax so I know it has not been ragged out well no wrecks anyways and serviced regularly. I need some opinions please,

Im thinking about taking my 1700 on the warranty and towing it to a speed shop and getting an ACt setup put in.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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What state are you in? There are state lemon laws as well as federal statutes. I doubt your clutch situation would qualify because it is easily remedied and would not constitute a repeated failure to meet basic quality criterion, especially since it is a wear item.

You need to read your warranty thoroughly. Wear and tear items like a clutch are almost never covered. I'd dig up their process for certifying a used car with a manual transmission. I'd think there is some process for evaluating the clutch prior to certification, but I have no first hand knowledge. If they had replaced it to certify the car you would have just been looking at a higher asking price, but at least you would have known the cost up front. In this case it was obviously not identified as a problem, or they elected to ignore the problem.

Did you test drive the car and not notice that the clutch was going? Did you ask about the clutch prior to purchase, given that this is an 8-9 year old car?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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try taking it to a dealer the next town over with your warranty in hand.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BHAM 27 R,Aug 6 2008, 09:32 AM
It has a clean car fax so I know it has not been ragged out well no wrecks anyways and serviced regularly.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Big question in my mind would be --- what were you doing when the clutch went out? Launching from 6K? Driving it like you stole it?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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yeah... stealerships do that... i'm agreeing with the guy that said go to the next town's honda
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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well clutches do wear out. How many miles are on it now? I would get your money back for the warranty if you can. NEVER buy an extended warranty they usually don't really cover anything. Brakes, Clutches, Tires, Belts, etc are considered wear items.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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clutch felt fine i drove the car for 2 weeks before i bought it when it went out i was going about 45 on an interstste on ramp,

And my comment was with the car fax it did show it had been serviced every 3-4k miles was what i meat it had been maintain at least the oil had been changed.

Also i was told it was a certified honda so I thought it would have went through a better inspection,

I guess my thing is i know its time for the clutch but 2 days after i buy it come one thsts just some b.s the dealership is jerking me round as well
what is a fair install price for clutch'?

I like how everyone assumes i was launching it for it to go out
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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You can't certifiy a 2000 model anymore, you can only go back to a 2003.

This is if indeed you mean Honda/Acura Certified Pre-Owned w/ the extra 12/12 comprehensive coverage and the remainder of 84/100 powertrain coverage from the original in-service date.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Many regions/states have laws that allow for buyers' remorse basically, meaning that you would be in a position to return the vehicle within a reasonable period of time (from several days to several weeks).

I would say talking to the sales manager, general manager, and even owner of the dealership should yield results.

When I bought my S from a Honda dealer, I was told that it had a brand new clutch. I requested all maintenance and repair documentation prior to pick up of the vehicle and didn't receive it. When I went to pick up the car after purchase, I still didn't receive it. Finally when it came to me about 2 weeks later it was apparent that there was no info about a new clutch in the history.

I am tired of slippery salesmen getting their way out of things so I called to "thank him" for the car and recorded the call. In that conversation I confirmed that it did have a new clutch and he said "yep, it sure does." When I called the Sales Manager and explained the situation politely and calmly, he said "Too bad, it's your word against the salesman."

I kept playing it cool and said "it really isn't too bad, you guys made a claim contributing to my decision to purchase and I want a new clutch, regardless of the condition of the current one."

I ended up pursuing the owner who was slightly more diplomatic and offered to pay for half of the installation. Not quite acceptable yet. It was at this point that I explained that my company phone system records every call and I can pull up the recording indicating the salesman saying it has a brand new clutch. The next call I got was from the Sales Manager who previously said "Too bad" but his tone was completely different saying "Well we certainly don't need to take this too far by pulling up recordings and taking any additional action, we'll be happy to schedule a time for you to have your clutch replaced completely free of charge."

A couple months later when it was convenient I had it replaced and had them give me my old parts as well.


Just treat the situation delicately and try to appeal to them as humans. It's a used car so they already made thousands of dollars off the sale (used is WAY better for profit margins than new cars) and they are able to cover the cost to replace. You just need to right person to make it happen.
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