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The Pilot Sport Cups are NOT a good idea if you have highway miles.
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There are other problems with Pilot Sport Cups for street use (please post reply)
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The Pilot Sport Cups would be awesome, but wear out quickly... and are expensive.
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Next best handling modification?

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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The S2000 (7# CTSC) is relegated to a dry weather only vehicle. No rain, no snow. Only sees ~7000 miles per year. The S02s are almost done.

Replacement S02s are ~$150. To replace with Pilot Sport Cups ~$210 per tire. I keep hearing how race tires make such a significant improvement in handling and lap times in the dry.

Any utility to running Pilot Sport Cups on the street? The GT3 comes with them as OEM equipment (and yes, I know that an S2000 is NOT a GT3). Even if I have to replace the tires every year / 7000 miles... is there any significant benefit in handling to doing this?

I'd say NO if it ever saw rain. But if it corners at 1.00 G with these tires, it might be worth it...

Why don't people do this routinely? If you could out-handle most other things with this setup, is it the money or the street conditions that prevent people from doing this?

IMHO: it might be a better way to spend money than an X-brace....
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Other than the short life of the tires, the Pilot Sport Cups are r-compond race tires which will reqire warm up until they can have actual traction on the road. They are very bad when there is rain. IMHO, they are not suitable for street use, unless you don't drive agressive which I doubt.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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I would get an extra set of rims and mount the sport cups on there. Then when you want to drive agressive or go to the track you can just swap them out. Probably save you more money in the long run.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by atlsupra,Jul 4 2007, 05:54 PM
Other than the short life of the tires, the Pilot Sport Cups are r-compond race tires which will reqire warm up until they can have actual traction on the road. They are very bad when there is rain. IMHO, they are not suitable for street use, unless you don't drive agressive which I doubt.


R-compound tires just aren't practical for street use, and should be left for the track. Unless you only drive in the twisties and not highway/city, these tires just aren't practical.

I just placed an order for a set of Bridgestone RE-01R, which are supposed to be the next best thing compared to R-compounds.
Here is a review on them by StinkyTofu: http://maxrev.net/index.php?location=RE01R.htm
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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I would go with the Advan A048's or Pirelli PZero Corsa's. I heard the sport cups take a real long time to warm up. I'm probably gonna go with a set of pzero's when I replace my azenis.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by atlsupra,Jul 4 2007, 04:54 PM
Other than the short life of the tires, the Pilot Sport Cups are r-compond race tires which will reqire warm up until they can have actual traction on the road. They are very bad when there is rain. IMHO, they are not suitable for street use, unless you don't drive agressive which I doubt.

Atlsupra:
That's a great point. Forgot about warm up and normal operating temperatures. It'd cut my top down season even further!

Davie:
That's also a good idea! I had a set of Blizzaks on spare OEM rims, but the car is going to be stored for the Winter now... I may try out the PSCs on the spare wheels and see how that goes. Maybe I'll run those in the height of summer and the S02s when it gets cooler!
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by N2oExpresS2k,Jul 4 2007, 05:09 PM
I would go with the Advan A048's or Pirelli PZero Corsa's. I heard the sport cups take a real long time to warm up. I'm probably gonna go with a set of pzero's when I replace my azenis.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tekstar,Jul 4 2007, 05:08 PM
I just placed an order for a set of Bridgestone RE-01R, which are supposed to be the next best thing compared to R-compounds.
Here is a review on them by StinkyTofu: http://maxrev.net/index.php?location=RE01R.htm
I also bought a set of Bridgestone RE01R, and they are far far superior then the old Kumho SPT I had. Unfortunately I did not have much experience with S02. They there replaced 100 miles after I purchased my car due to worn tires from dealership However, I used S02 and S03 on my Supra before, and from my experience I like the RE-01R better. The price is very similar to what the S02s, so they are definitely worth the money. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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I had S02s and just switched to REO1Rs. I love it. From the track guys, I've heard that it is the best track tire save for Rcomps
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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get a xbrace
consider going to Ap2 17", I have heard from people it was a great change
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