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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Well guys... I'm sorry to say, but some of you got your wish. This just happened over the weekend.

I'm not really happy about it. Stupid dog, damn thing was dragging a leash, too.

Anyway, here's the pic. I've only had it about 5 weeks.

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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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I guess it's hard to believe VSA can be turned off in AP2. I also guess that knowing the FACT that VSA is near them makes some AP1 owners run for the hills.

OMG...VSA...is near me...I'm a noob driver...
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LowFlyin'
Well guys... I'm sorry to say, but some of you got your wish. This just happened over the weekend.

I'm not really happy about it. Stupid dog, damn thing was dragging a leash, too.

Anyway, here's the pic. I've only had it about 5 weeks.

Damn man I'm sorry. What happened? Would VSA have saved it or not?
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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I have posted my problem in the uth forum, but my VSA system has actually been a bit annoying lately. After replacing the rear tires with slightly worse tires (went from Michelin PS2 to Hankook Evo), my VSA comes on daily with no difference in driving style. Still drive sanely. Take an on or off ramp at any sort of good speed, VSA now comes on. Straight line pull, VSA comes on every time vtec occurs. I am hoping that it is simply a matter of the tires breaking in as I have read. If not, it is quite annoying. Prior to this, VSA only activated on black ice and I was very glad to have it around.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Hmmm.... my VSA comes on often when I'm driving around unfortunately. It's annoying if you know how to control a RWD car. Yes, I turn it off often when I remember, but it's on automatically when I restart the car after making a stop. I do hate that a sports car has an exclamation light on the dash as if something's wrong with the car. I would rather have a light for when I want to turn it on - like driving in the rain or something.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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My ap1 rear end kicks out all the time when I' taking hard corners and I love it. I actually induce slides just for the fun of it. You just gotta keep on the throttle and she straightens back out eventually.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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The purest porsche they make which is the gt3 does not come with VSA. All other porsches have it but not their purest track car. The S started as a track car that can be driven on the streets. In the later years it was designed more for the street that can still perform on the track. I have an 04' and wished it had VSA because the S has shown me to respect it. I have much to learn and I respect the s2000. VSA gives you false security.
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mH27_URPg[/media]

This is a wet lap VSA comparison made. If you turn up the volume, you can hear constant throttle up to and including the moment of kicking out (ofcourse when it does kick out you hear revs climb). First 5 mins or so is VSA intervention, then comes non-VSA. At the end of the video was an eventual spinout, but you can see how VSA planted the S2000 through every corner, even under full throttle.

Without VSA, and if you don't want to spin, you could always putt around like a nanny, but it wouldn't be a fair comparison between VSA on and off. Some of those "snap oversteer" situations were quite violent and unsuspecting.


There's too many that think they've caught the car before they're superstars, and look down on safety measures that would save you the trouble of saving a slide. The day when you don't save a slide (for whatever reason) might be the day you're staring at a tree-car merger. The VSA prevents oversteer in this regard very well, whether it's trail braking oversteer, lift-off oversteer, or throttle oversteer, VSA always wins.

That said, VSA OFF is 100x more fun than VSA ON, wet or dry.
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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Soooo, you're comparing VSA and non-VSA driving on garbage tires.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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VSA is an effective safety measure, it's not performance. Anything that will make the car go in a different direction than what the steering wheel indicates will trigger VSA. Things such as bad tires, rain, gravel, incorrect driver inputs increase the chance that VSA will intervene.

The video shows how effective VSA is. Most of the snap-oversteer accidents would be avoided if VSA was standard in all model years (same drivers, same conditions, etc.) All such accidents I've seen involve a pre-MY06 S2000.
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