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Oversteer vs Understeer

Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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Can someone define these two.

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Would you like a simple explanation? I will assume yes, if not indicate it and I will give you a detailed explanation.

Understeer = Front tires loose traction and the front of the car starts to "push" towards the outside of the corner. You will be steering but the car will refuse to go where you want it, it will continue going straight since the front tires are unable to do their job...

Oversteer = The rear tires loose traction and the rear of the car will tend to swing around making you, the driver face the inside of the corner or worse yet in the case of a 180 or 360 spin....

A car that understeers at the limit is easier to drive for your average driver.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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I want a detailed on. The more detail the better.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sev
[B]Would you like a simple explanation? I will assume yes, if not indicate it and I will give you a detailed explanation.

Understeer = Front tires loose traction and the front of the car starts to "push" towards the outside of the corner. You will be steering but the car will refuse to go where you want it, it will continue going straight since the front tires are unable to do their job...

Oversteer = The rear tires loose traction and the rear of the car will tend to swing around making you, the driver face the inside of the corner or worse yet in the case of a 180 or 360 spin....
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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oversteer doesn't = immediate steering response
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by minboost
oversteer doesn't = immediate steering response
Increase front negative camber would be your best bet. There are many ways to do it like playing around with toe or camber in the rear or even toe in the front. But by increasing front negative camber, you get better traction up front with the only disadvantage being tire wear. It is better to increase front traction instead of decreasing rear traction.

Be careful though, as speeds increase, a cars tendency to oversteer increases. A car that neutral at low speeds can become tail happy at high speeds.

The alignment setting I liked on my s2000 was the UK recommended spec.

Look up the UK spec, it the safest and best alignment setting to have. This is not a car you want to mess around with, it will bite you.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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http://www.seansa4page.com/resource/steering.html

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Understeer - You hit the wall with the front bumper

Oversteer - You hit the wall with the rear bumper

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