Originally Posted by Swiftoy,Feb 8 2009, 01:10 PM

You all can say whatever, owner this owner that. The one thing I do know is in my neck of the woods all I ever hear about when someone is attacked is that the breed of the dog was a pit 9 times out of 10. I won't hesitate to kill one or use the stun gun if I ever find myself in that situation again. Any dog can be vicious but these animals are a bit more dangerous than a border collie.

Swiftoy

Originally Posted by ChefJ,Feb 8 2009, 10:23 PM

That pit is juiced up big time. Probably bumping half a gram of testosterone every week.
I have a female myself she is just over a year and is a very loving dog that has never met a stranger. My girl has a 10 pound yorkie that is the dominant one.

Originally Posted by RED MX5,Feb 9 2009, 10:58 AM

I don't want to start an argument over breeds and training, but I would like to share a few experiences that have shaped my thinking. I am NOT an expert, in any way, shape, or form, but experience has to count for something. (LOL, or maybe not. )

Staffordshire Terrier's (AKA "Pit Bulls") are NOT all the same, because just as with any other breed, they have been specialized into what might almost be considered subspecies. The same thing has happened to other breeds, including one of the most docile breeds imaginable, the Saint Bernard. Saints were bread based on size alone for so many generations that some lines ended up with really foul temperments, and even thought they hardly have enough teeth to bite, a huge Saint that wants to attack every stranger he sees is one heck of a scary animal. The most firghtening dog I ever encountered was, of all things, a Saint Bernard (and to me, that's just WRONG). At the same time, I have two friends who have *registered* Staffordshire Terrirers, both of which have the "tiger stripes" (and one of which is named "Tiger"); Both dogs come from lines that were bread for desirable characteristics rather than as fighting dogs, and they're not at all like what we think of when we hear the term "Pit Bull." They're actually lap dogs.

IMO, a good dog starts with good breeding, and a great dog starts as a good dog and is made great throught training. The best dog we ever owned was an Irish Setter that came from a long line of successful show dogs. After first and second level obedience school, the animal was smarter and more cooperative than most kids. He even learned "new tricks" quicker than most people, even long after he became an "old dog."

I also think our current dog, "Odie," is amazing. He's a flugelhound (1/2 Golden Retreiver, 1/2 Grayhound), and he is so smart and cooperative that we pulled him out of obediance school after the second session. We show him what we expect, ONCE, and he's got it down, so it's almost as if he is training himself.

With the two Shepards we had before Odie, I'd spend five minutes teaching the female something, and the male could not wait for his chance to show me that he'd learned it too. Both came from a line of dogs that had been raised for size rather than temperment, but they were sill very smart and very easy to train.

Dogs are like people, and you can't really judge them based on thier breeding. It IS an indicator, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

LOL, but Tiger (the Staffordshire Terrier) did try to rip out my achilles tendon once, but under the circumstances, a poodle might well have done the same thing. When a dog is in pain and snaps as you try to help, it doesn't really count.

Originally Posted by kenta,Feb 6 2009, 01:22 PM

FOR SALE: Pitbull fender roller. Didn't work on my car as expected.

Originally Posted by S2Kevint,Feb 9 2009, 11:55 AM

If i saw that dog in my garage chewing up my S, id just let my 2 German sheperds go at it.

and then if anyone of them gets hurt id jump in.