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8500 is really cheap for an s2000, especially an 06+ s2000. I'd like to know more about the salvage damage and what the repairs were. It looks and sounds rough but also really cheap for what it is. If you can get some backstory on the salvage damage, are ok with the results, and have no delusions that this is going to be a super clean, stock s2000, you might have something worth buying. I'd suggest a compression and leakdown test on the engine. If that checks out, the engine/trans alone make this probably worth buying in that you could make more parting it out than what you're paying. If you just want a driving s2000 that has a strong drivetrain, you probably can't do cheaper than this (assuming good compression/leakdown numbers). If you are planning to do a full restoration thinking you're going to get a bargain that will be worth the same as a matching VIN, clean title car, you're not thinking straight.
If you're ok with all of those things, you can get a really cheap entry fee to get into the seat of an s2000. As long as the frame is straight, damage was purely cosmetic, and the engine numbers check out you will have an awesome driving car.
It was side swiped. Right fender and door replaced, quarter panel was okay, has a door ding but nothing big.
I don't plan on re-selling it like you mentioned in the later half of your post.
Originally Posted by Chuck S
@acmoc According to your profile you already own a 2007 S2000 so you should be able to cope with any issues in this one. Condition is, of course, very poor so it will take a bit lot of money to correct that. A project car?
Don't think you're fooling the DMV with a "gift" title transfer. Even salvaged cars have some residual value and this one is titled and, I assume, licensed for the road.
-- Chuck
I don't own an s2000, I must have messed up when creating my profile.
I do want to buy the car, I never considered the friendship things you guys are bringing up, and it does get me re-thinking my decision.
That said, I don't expect any surprises with the car, and I don't believe he has put any real effort into selling the car. I say this because if he had listed it for sale somewhere he'd probably learn that the 9500 is a bit too high.
It will likely need all the regular 90k maintenance done once I get it.
Anyway, I read all the responses. Apologies to the people who warned me not to buy it but i'd hate to see it go to a stranger.
9500 is too high, 8k is getting closer. Maybe 7k, 7500
Oh, an yes he didn't really "care" for it because he's not a car type deep down, which I believe is why he's selling.
When I say "care" I mean he doesn't really know how to drive lowered cars and the long bonnet, dent in the trunk.
But the oil was always done with castrol syntec every 3k miles and he has a mechanic he takes it to that did the brakes recently.
Since he's owned it it's on his first set of tires.
If your friend is truly a good friend buying or not buying should not affect your relationship AT ALL. The 7k range seems about right at this point as a mega driver car.
One on hand... Rescuing a S2000 from a "non-car-person" would be doing it justice.
But on the other hand... Assuming ownership of ANY cars from a "non-car-person" is probably the worst thing you can do in the automotive world.
Now, let's talk about how you want to treat the car, how much of the perfection are you chasing here? Because, just skimming through the obvious problems this car has, and depending on who you are, you're either:
- Inheriting ALL of the problems to some degree
- "90k maintenance" and a quality body re-work will easily set you back an additional $2,000-3,000 at minimum.
Do you really want to own what is effectively $12,500 - 13,500 salvaged car? Here's another thought, it's REALLY hard to sell a salvaged title car. There are only a subset of people who would buy salvaged S2000
- Track people looking for a 2nd throwaway car. Thus, your re-sell market is nichy and small.
If your friend is truly a good friend buying or not buying should not affect your relationship AT ALL. The 7k range seems about right at this point as a mega driver car.
I;'ve thought about the price a lot. I will start at 7k and go up to 7800. But if he says no, then I shot my shot. And I'll move on
Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo
One on hand... Rescuing a S2000 from a "non-car-person" would be doing it justice.
But on the other hand... Assuming ownership of ANY cars from a "non-car-person" is probably the worst thing you can do in the automotive world.
Now, let's talk about how you want to treat the car, how much of the perfection are you chasing here? Because, just skimming through the obvious problems this car has, and depending on who you are, you're either:
- Inheriting ALL of the problems to some degree
- "90k maintenance" and a quality body re-work will easily set you back an additional $2,000-3,000 at minimum.
Do you really want to own what is effectively $12,500 - 13,500 salvaged car? Here's another thought, it's REALLY hard to sell a salvaged title car. There are only a subset of people who would buy salvaged S2000
- Track people looking for a 2nd throwaway car. Thus, your re-sell market is nichy and small.
Not a car guy, but I don't think her mistreated it. The current state it's in doesn't bother me at all.
I had plans of getting a vis k2 trunk and enkei nto3rr. The front bumper respray Should only be like 300.00
And here's the thing. He kind of bought as a way to find a hobby. So he has a bunch of parts sitting around that I will get for the maintenance.
There's plugs, gaskets, and all the fluids( Honda mtf, coolant, and Valvoline 85/90 diff fluid) 3 mm wheel spacers, Honda oe wheel locks and rays alloy lug nuts
The A/C he had re-charged and it passes smog easily.
I don't ever plan on selling it. I had one car since I graduated high school(Honda crx) And A/C would be nice.
Oh and there's a passwdjdm strut bat battery tie, circuit hero shift knob, New radio door, K&N air filter kit, and mugen oil cap. He also has a spare interior parts from the salvage repare shop. I see this alot when people try a new hobby and discover it's not for them. Especially true when you see the killer deals for lightly used bikes on craigslist.
I;'ve thought about the price a lot. I will start at 7k and go up to 7800. But if he says no, then I shot my shot. And I'll move on
Not a car guy, but I don't think her mistreated it. The current state it's in doesn't bother me at all.
I had plans of getting a vis k2 trunk and enkei nto3rr. The front bumper respray Should only be like 300.00
And here's the thing. He kind of bought as a way to find a hobby. So he has a bunch of parts sitting around that I will get for the maintenance.
There's plugs, gaskets, and all the fluids( Honda mtf, coolant, and Valvoline 85/90 diff fluid) 3 mm wheel spacers, Honda oe wheel locks and rays alloy lug nuts
The A/C he had re-charged and it passes smog easily.
I don't ever plan on selling it. I had one car since I graduated high school(Honda crx) And A/C would be nice.
Oh and there's a passwdjdm strut bat battery tie, circuit hero shift knob, New radio door, K&N air filter kit, and mugen oil cap. He also has a spare interior parts from the salvage repare shop. I see this alot when people try a new hobby and discover it's not for them. Especially true when you see the killer deals for lightly used bikes on craigslist.
If your front bumper respray is only $300, you should look elsewhere. Paint and material alone would be close to $200.
I think you're gonna be fine with the car assuming it's not your only transportation. Not as to reliability but few projects are complete in a weekend. I'd concentrate on getting it back into OEM shape and leave the "mods" alone for now. A good set of tires will be expense enough for a couple of months.
If your front bumper respray is only $300, you should look elsewhere. Paint and material alone would be close to $200.
Is $300.00 a lot or too little?
It's my friends body guy. I've seen his work on about a dozen cars and it's good.
Originally Posted by Chuck S
I think you're gonna be fine with the car assuming it's not your only transportation. Not as to reliability but few projects are complete in a weekend. I'd concentrate on getting it back into OEM shape and leave the "mods" alone for now. A good set of tires will be expense enough for a couple of months.
-- Chuck
Yea, my first rwd car so the tires would be first.
I don't want to mod it too much. I think the s2k looks best oem+lowered.
My priorities would be tires and then all the maintenance to get it up to date.
Is $300.00 a lot or too little?
It's my friends body guy. I've seen his work on about a dozen cars and it's good.
Yea, my first rwd car so the tires would be first.
I don't want to mod it too much. I think the s2k looks best oem+lowered.
My priorities would be tires and then all the maintenance to get it up to date.
I'd say $300 for one bumper is on the cheap side. But if it's your friend doing the work, then you probably don't have to worry.
What are you going to lower it on. My 2cents is that, unless you throw in KW V3, or Ohlins as a bare minimum, everything else is a downgrade from the OEM suspension. This car was extremely well sorted out from factory.
There's something visually attractive about a lowered car but in the few group drives I've been on with a couple dozen S2000s the lowered cars all have problems at some points of the drive including places as innocent as driveways and gravel on the road. I have to tiptoe my standard height S2000 in and out of my driveway. A buddy bought a lowered S2000 and retrofitted the OEM suspension the next year. He's much happier now.
Professional refinish of my front bumper cost me $600 last year. 80% of which was labor that included removing the bumper from the car, removing all the faux vents and grille, and removing all the hundred stone chips. Car was in the paint shop for a week.
There's something visually attractive about a lowered car but in the few group drives I've been on with a couple dozen S2000s the lowered cars all have problems at some points of the drive including places as innocent as driveways and gravel on the road. I have to tiptoe my standard height S2000 in and out of my driveway. A buddy bought a lowered S2000 and retrofitted the OEM suspension the next year. He's much happier now.
Professional refinish of my front bumper cost me $600 last year. 80% of which was labor that included removing the bumper from the car, removing all the faux vents and grille, and removing all the hundred stone chips. Car was in the paint shop for a week.
-- Chuck
This. I'm at bone stock height. But I have to place some 2x4 on the ground to give my front end some height to make it up my bumper. It'll get old REAL fast when you have to X-out certain convenient gas station because your stupid car can't make it up the ramp for a refuel.