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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DJRobNM,Jul 18 2005, 07:27 AM
As an incredibly unscientific experiment, I put 87 in my Scion Tc on my way up north and 93 on my way back down. I believe the trips were comparable as far as distance, speed, temp, etc... On the way up (87) I averaged 24mpg and on the way back (93) I averaged 28 mpg.

4mpg difference * 13g = 52 extra miles = ~2g of gas so I actually saved money buying premium in a car the doesn't even require it.

Like someone above said, its two bucks people!!! I wonder how much money gas companies could save if they only carried premium. Probably enough to charge as much as the regular.
you were likely going uphill most of the way one way and downhill on the way back.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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You need the higher octane gas....The engine is a high compression engine and low octane will cause detonation....Detonation is BAD!!!!!
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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O. K, I'm convinced. No more regular fuel. Back to the good stuff.
Thanks for the input.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Harry Honda,Jul 18 2005, 09:15 AM
O. K, I'm convinced. No more regular fuel. Back to the good stuff.
Thanks for the input.
your S thanks you.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Putting higher octane in cars that don't need it is pretty much useless (Modern cars that is).

That applies to the tC also.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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As silly as it sounds, I miss 93 octane. only 91 in my area now
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vAnt,Jul 18 2005, 01:19 PM
Putting higher octane in cars that don't need it is pretty much useless (Modern cars that is).

That applies to the tC also.
Actually, this was proved not so in a test by car and driver. I forgot the link to the results, but it was posted in another thread with the same question.

The main thing is the ECU. There is a chance that your car can benefit from premium, especially if it's a newer car. Research showed that just like ECU's that retard timing to make up for detonation, some ECU will advance timing to make up for higher octane fuels giving the engine more power. Of course this was not the case in all cars and especially not in the older ones. However, some newer cars did see improved performance numbers with higher octane. It just depends on their ECU.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by S2000RAT,Jul 18 2005, 08:21 AM
All 87 Oct. gas comes from the same place.

The diff. is how much additives are injected.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FO2K,Jul 18 2005, 12:11 PM
Think of it as a bank. The petrol co's pump XXX amount of fuel into the nationwide gas lines, they then remove XXX amount of fuel at said location, add their 'additives' and raise octane levels, etc then truck it to their individual stations. The only exception to this is Chevron, which uses their own fuel lines.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Premium fuel IS NOT necessary if you are an old lady and driving your S likes a Civic.

Premium fuel IS necessary if you are driving it as it is intended to be driven.
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