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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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In considering the strengths and weaknesses of the s2k, I was wondering how this low-torque car would mate up to a CVT transmission that could adjust tiself by throttle pressure or otherwise, so that it could start off at a higher rpm (no clutch frying) and hold it in the most efficient rpm range until throttle pressure was lessened. Then it could assume a higher "gear" for cruising. It sounds too good as a concept, so there MUST be something wrong with such a concept. What is it?
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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What's wrong is that no one here wants an automatic S2000.

If you feel like your car lacks torque, get a final gear. It makes your car feel much much better
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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yep, stupid thought...
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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I currently have a CVT Audi A4. CVT's suck ass, period. They sap every sensation of fun and speed out of the driving experience. While the turbo Audi is not slow it sure feels that way in your seat of the pants. While CVT's are good for maximizing mpg's they should never be used in a performance car, ever.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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CVT -> <- Manual
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Yeah, I do have stupid ideas. This one was based only on the fact that I would like to start from a stop at about 7K rpm without becoming a member of the "clutch a month" club."
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Anyone else have real experience. CVT has some real performance possibilities, especially with narrow power band cars. My understanding was that CVT was much heavier than a manual though.

I hope we can do better than "CVT Sucks Ass".
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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CVT belongs in the prius. I hope it stays there.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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I think the current problem with CVT's is their programing. They are built to operate at the engine's most efficient point, not at the preffered acceleration point or maximum torque transfer. Basically the least amount of fuel for an "acceptable" rate of acceleration.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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I agree. My idea was to have a CVT for the s2k that would let us start off in VTEC mode (without burning up our clutches) and hold it there untill we let off the throttle. Or, according to my idea, we could "granny drive it" and the CVT would start the car off at a lower rpm, where it would stay, until we "goosed it." Maybe this is not possible, or maybe the car makers just don't want to offer it to us -- I don't know. And perhaps for tracking, it could be accompanied by paddle shifters that would let us downshift at will and override the CVT.

My whole idea is that the 6 speed manual trans. with a friction clutch SURELY is not the end of sports car technology -- or at least I hope not.
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