Hi Hardtopguy,
Could you send me a link to where you found this information? Thanks in advance

 

Aldwin,

I believe the idea is to engage neutral... First depress clutch, then drop gearshift into neutral, then release clutch, next depress clutch again and shift into gear and release...

I think what the shift into neutral does is it gets the transmission shaft spinning with the engine's driveshaft.

Modern transmissions have synchromesh gearing which obviates the need or double clutching. But pdx is right that it doesn't hurt.

Guys, I've got 6500 mi now after a summer with my '02 without any tranny balkyness. I've noticed a little bit of stiffness with the cold weather descending on the east coast, but not much.

Best wishes.

Oh, Former, I hope reverting to the Honda MTF works out well for you thru the cold Calgary winter. There's absolutely no harm in skipping gears on upshifts.

 

Yeah, I am only going to skip 2nd only if I don't have time to warm up the tranny. At near 35F or slightly above zero, my 2nd is tough to get into but once warmed up, it is butter smooth, no notch or anything. It is just the characteristic of my tranny.

 

Thanks for the reference (and reminder that search is a very useful technology)--ace039's contribution to that thread recommends turnfast.com. I just read it I found it to be a great read.

Had my s2k for just under 2 weeks now (120 miles left to go in the break-in period before I can ) -- I'm eager to learn how to drive it well.

 

Typically there aren't synchro's on higher gears (I believe we only have them on 1-4, not on 5 and 6?)

That notwithstanding, participating in this forum is the first time I've ever heard of people NOT skipping gears.

Safe driving mandates shifting to the most appropriate gear for road/speed/traffic conditions--that won't necessarily be the next higher or lower gear!

When rapidly accelerating, I shift 1st-2nd-best gear for cruising. On the highway this is 1st-2nd-6th in the S (all my other cars that's 1st-2nd-5th).

Just like down-shifting, when you have to match revs and select the appropriate gear for the upcoming conditions, one should do the same when shifting up!

There should never be a moment of resistance when releasing the clutch or slippage of the clutch. There's less wear having the RPM's slightly higher and allowing them to drop a bit as you let the clutch out rather than the other way around (having the tire rotation force the engine RPM up is very bad/wearing).

Ultimately, with practice, you can actually shift WITHOUT using the clutch at all...

Having driven manual tranny cars my entire life, I've never had to replace a clutch despite usually being at least the 3rd owner of those cars.

Be smooth,

Randy

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by s2kpdx01
[B]ok, so double clutch...don't use the synchros.
you have to match revs too to make it work though.

what they are talking about is if you were to shift from 2nd to 5th fast....this always grinds.

 

Other than Former's scenario, WHY would you skip shift? Don't you like shifiting???

 

I'll often go 1-2-4 when moving away from a stop and going down a hill, using all the gears then is a bit redundant.

 

It's best to rev-match both on the upshift and the downshift, for minimal clutch wear and tear. The difference is that most cars rev-match on their own on a typical up-shift. Basically the engine RPM drops with no gas when the clutch is in, and typical shifting times often result in that RPM drop being about right to rev-match the next higher gear. Of course, if you leave it in neutral or are otherwise slow in shifting and releasing the clutch, it may take a slight blip of the gas to get the RPMs back up to rev-match.

 

I do believe from reading similar posts on the forum, the double-clutch/rev-matching is for getting the tranny shaft/gears up to speed when DOWN shifting. Up shifting would require slowing down the shafts, i.e. leaving clutch in a bit longer, with NO throttle blipping. There are several very good posts on this subject from months past if you try the "search" function. Personally, I'm too lazy to look for them again, but YOU might want to if this subject is new to you.