Thanks for all the good advice.

I talked to a few lawyers yesterday, and I am in the process of retaining the best one. He told me of a number of ways that I might be able to get this resolved without having to go to court, or pay a fine. I am going to let him do the legwork in this one. I fear that if I attempt to handle this one on my own, I might miss some loop hole (the thing that burns me is that I shouldn

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bradkarma
[B]

hey how bout you hairy white guys stop stealing all the hot asian chicks?

 

Sorry to hear about your misfortune........

Also remember, that at 72MPH 'indicated' on your speedo, it is exactly that......INDICATED.

Your true speed is actually lower than that....I think it is like 3-5% off. So, you were probably actually travelling about 69mph TRUE/ACTUAL speed. This might help to getting a lower ticket if you do still get a ticket.

Find out from Honda what the speedometer error is.....it just might help.

I also support taking photo's, even video of the traffic. If you want to fight it, more power to you.

By the way, did anybody ever tell you that you have exceptional taste in your choice of automobile!!!

Good luck!!!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shoyu Burner
[B]... I wouldn't ever bring it up - if the issue arises, I would say that you accelerated to merge, then resumed the speed limit.

 

First of all, even in California, they are NOT required to show you the radar report! Show me where it says this in the vehicle code!!

Second, I really like the idea of traffic pictures. Anoter option to consider very seriously is to subpoena the officer's ticket/arrest record. This is what will lead to a suit against the state or city, and you should not be ashamed to try to get million$ for it. The population owes you that for singlehandedly helping to clean up the system!! Every other motorist (taxpayer) in the state will benefit from your effort, and, therefore, should compensate you for it!!

If you can find other people black or otherwise that have received the same treatment, the case should be an easy one.

One thing you should understand about the courts, however, is that if you go to court, you already lost. The cost, expense and stress of court is more punishment than sane person can inflict on you! That is why you should not be ashamed to be compensated for it if you can show that you are right!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sietek
[B]Thanks for all the good advice.

 

this was in the UK, but I was stopped for 105mph in a 70mph limit.

I agreed that I was going that speed, but the summons that the police issued said that they had followed me for 1/2 a mile. When I was stopped the policeman told me that he had followed me for 8 miles at that speed.

I know that sounds worse, but when my lawyer brought this up in court, it actually worked in my favour, since he convinced the court that whilst I was speeding, I was obviously not causing a danger, otherwise the police would have stopped me sooner.

This was enough to reduce the penalty significantly.

My point is, that a good lawyer can use information in many ways to assist and is well worth paying out for when you feel that the police are not being 100% truthful in their evidence.

 

Ok, let me settle this quickly. There is no law that says the traffic officer is required to show you the reading on the unit. (Wives Tail) Being a dully sworn officer of the law makes him correct in his observation. Now, is he being honest? Don't know! Is he racially profiling? Your perception solely. Not a factor, nor will the judge take it in consideration. The issue is you were observed exceeding the speed limit. That's the courts stance.

One thing puzzles me greatly. If he clocked you at 50mph over the posted speed limit, you should have been arrested and your car towed on the spot. This is reckless operation. Either, the observation was false and he was in error of judgment. Or you were infact tagged for 103 in a 55. What, type of unit was he using? Handheld or dash mounted? How quickly did he apprehend you from the point that you realized he was behind you? Were you both moving? Did he use a siren or did he use just lights? This is quite puzzling to me. If I had clocked you at 103, you'd have been posting bail. That's the law. Something isn't adding up here.

You need to provide a little more information so that I can get a better picture.

What TJ has said holds true in the UK. They are more forgiving as long as your traveling in safe manner. Problem is in the United States most are never this forgiving. 103 is proceeding at unsafe passage.

Oh yes I almost forgot. I would imagine that the reason he was just sitting there looking at you was:

1. He was probally a little disgusted with you as with anyone travelling at this speed.

2. He was also running your plates for wants and warrants.

3. Letting you calm down before he approached you.

4. Alerting dispatcher of stop and location for possible assistance.

5. Observing your movements, as to see if you were hiding anything illegal.

6. Calm himself down from a possible persuit situation and collect his thoughts.

These are all techniques used by good, alert law enforcement officers. Wouldn't expect you to know because your not an officer. So you were probably already fairly emotionally hyped when he stopped you. Doubt, alittle fear, unknown reasons which lead to imaginary thought processes and predetermination of the situation in stressfully enviroment. Perceptions become alittle warped and lead broken thoughts of mental escapism (Flight or Fight) and voila, a combination of negative memories under stress. You do alot of listening or reading about racially related problems in general also or at least focus on them quite often. So your first thoughts become your last in justifying the situation. Since you know you can't fight or run your imagination does. This is common thought pattern of most anyone. So don't think I'm singling you out. I hear and see it almost everyday.

I'm also going to take in consideration that you live in Georgia. There is quite alot of racial bigitry that still exsist there. But this is why I can't understand why he didn't arrest you if it was racially motivated, especially since the law allows for it. Doesn't make sense to me. If he was thinking about this racially and possible concquences, then he wouldn't have written you up for 103 in a 55, which calls for an arrest. So either he was being very easy on you or there are other undetermined factors that haven't been mentioned. I wish you luck and I hope eveyrthing works out. This is a pretty hefty fine involved.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRM
[B]Ok, let me settle this quickly.

 

I have to think about all this crap most of the time! Got to look at both side to understand the entire motive. I'm a digger in information, just comes with the job and the territory. I have to pose questions in both spheres of understanding to get the whole picture to draw some kind of ethical and realistic conclusion. If offended, I apologize. If I also came off as looking in another perspective than I was. I'm looking for a common denominator from a different perspective.

We all have similar thoughts. I didn't mean this to give the impression that you were a raving physicotic. These thoughts happen in seconds sometime quicker. It defines anger or joy and how we preceive a certain situation. Did I sterotype you, yes just like I would any common law abiding individual including myself. The defining factor is how we act upon those thoughts. This is who we are at a given time. Perception is the determining factor in most situations. Eitherway I need to take a brake from my reports. I'm starting to work when I'm playing. But I guess that's not so bad either. Must be I enjoy my work. As far as racism, I simplify it to one thing only," general hatred" and that's sad! It's the underlying factor of a racism. Get rid of the hatred you get rid of the racism. I didn't say anger either. Hatred comes from long term anger. So stupid, and so much wasted time!

Cheers

Jeff