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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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so, from #4, it's not a good habit to make use of ABS? i thought the fastest way your car will stop is with ABS rather than me trying to be at the treshold braking...

im a newbie...
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mister x
I would love a ride with a great driver like Jackie Stewart, too bad the closest I can get are Best Motoring videos.
Best Motoring? Those guys are far from being smooth. Terrible examples of 'good' driving. Try watching F1 some time. In the past, Michael Schumacher was a great example, but now I think Louis Hamilton is one of the best (IMO, of course... no flames from the Hamilton haters, please). Here's this guy decelerating from 200mph to 60mph and hitting his mark within a couple of inches, and you'll hardly ever see him sawing at the wheel.
Also, they don't show it very often but if you can catch the Spec Miata series on Speed, the Jason Saini's of the world (and guys that he competes with) are generally very smooth drivers. They have to be. Too much steering input or braking just a little too much into a corner can cost them a lot on their lap time.

Originally Posted by raisantos
so, from #4, it's not a good habit to make use of ABS? i thought the fastest way your car will stop is with ABS rather than me trying to be at the treshold braking...
No... using ABS is one of the worst ways to stop on dry pavement. Think about how ABS works: it is quickly turning your brakes on & off while you're trying to slow down. 1/2 the time the brakes are applied and 1/2 the time they aren't. So that means for half the time that you're trying to stop, your brakes aren't even applied, due to ABS. So, the best way to stop on dry pavement is to brake right at the edge of the point before your tires begin to lock-up.
But on the street, it's always nice to have ABS if you accidentally exceed that threshold.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Feb 1 2008, 08:30 AM
No... using ABS is one of the worst ways to stop on dry pavement. Think about how ABS works: it is quickly turning your brakes on & off while you're trying to slow down. 1/2 the time the brakes are applied and 1/2 the time they aren't. So that means for half the time that you're trying to stop, your brakes aren't even applied, due to ABS. So, the best way to stop on dry pavement is to brake right at the edge of the point before your tires begin to lock-up.
But on the street, it's always nice to have ABS if you accidentally exceed that threshold.
Try watching Ayrton Senna or Fernando Alonso driving a car - those guys aren't smooth and isn't nearly as fluid. So I wouldn't say that the 'jerky' way is far from the 'good examples' of driving.

I think in the upper-echelon of racing, you develop what's quick for you. The Japanese-style (Drift King, etc, etc) def. does not work for most people, including me...smooth is the easiest way to be quick and the most consistent to acheiving quick times.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Jan 31 2008, 06:01 AM
Sweet. Now I have a new euphemism for dropping a deuce.

"I'm gonna go practice my braking technique."

And it's even more appropriate, because you'll know that your technique is not good if it results in skid marks.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Nice find. That article pretty much summed up the concepts that were instilled by classroom theory and track drills during the Skip Barber schools that I have attended.
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