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This is exactly how the S2000 feels. Really sharp with a smaller window at the limit that rewards precise and smooth inputs. And punishes hamfisted driving.
I visited a training center after i bought the S2000 and was on a skid pad. Your survival changes in a S2000 with a sudden snap oversteer on a wet surface are:
ZERO. NADA. NULL.
Booth instructurs told me before, with a grin in their face: "Good luck Sir, we know the S2000..." Good expirience, highly reccomended to everybody!
I visited a training center after i bought the S2000 and was on a skid pad. Your survival changes in a S2000 with a sudden snap oversteer on a wet surface are:
ZERO. NADA. NULL.
Booth instructurs told me before, with a grin in their face: "Good luck Sir, we know the S2000..." Good expirience, highly reccomended to everybody!
That is SO true! In the wet that small window from grip to slip becomes zero. In the dry though, I love the precision and smooth inputs it takes to keep it at the limit without spinning out.
run a wet session on track on worn V730s in the rain, you will get over the wet concerns lol
Seriously though, just autocross it. I have run plenty of wet autocrosses in mine, like anything else you learn to feel out what the car is doing and be prepared for it.
run a wet session on track on worn V730s in the rain, you will get over the wet concerns lol
Seriously though, just autocross it. I have run plenty of wet autocrosses in mine, like anything else you learn to feel out what the car is doing and be prepared for it.
Interesting! I never drive my car in the rain. Even the couple of track days I go to each year I have been lucky enough that they've all been good weather. Maybe I should drive in the rain more. Will likely make me a better driver!
Snap oversteer is a myth, its an excuse used by people who want to put the blame on the car for them spinning.
Cars that have a low polar moment of inertia and react quickly will be more tricky to drive but at the end of they day the car is responding to driver input and road/tire conditions.
yeah I tend to have had good luck in rarely seeing rain at track days. The V730 incident though was horrible. Love those tires for HPDE in the dry but they are horrible in rain lol. But autocross is great in the rain in the fact that the consequences are much lower for mistakes so you can really push things without worrying as much about hitting hard things at high speeds I did a lot of autocross for years, still do some but track stuff takes up more time. But just had to learn how to autocross in the rain, and you tend to upset the car more doing autocross so great way to get used to it. Of course we still bitch that it is not sunny and nice out !
I dont autocross but everyone says that you're almost always at the limit. I can see how that can bring up the S2ks tendencies, especially in the rain. I've driven other cars that have larger windows at the limit, like an F87 M2 comp, for example, and it's super forgiving. But I prefer the sharpness and precision required with a car like the S2k, especially my 2002 AP1. Different preferences I guess. I just like the challenge of driving the S2k near or at the limit. The chassis communicates so much especially since we're pretty much sitting on the rear wheels, even if the steering is a bit muted it doesn't matter.
S2000 handling explained well, finally.
I did a lot of autocross for years, still do some but track stuff takes up more time. But just had to learn how to autocross in the rain, and you tend to upset the car more doing autocross so great way to get used to it. Of course we still bitch that it is not sunny and nice out !
