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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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Also think he should do the video with a bone stock '00 versus the CR, way too many suspension changes between a CR and an AP1 to take this video seriously.

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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sam_spider
It's not a myth, it is very real. Definitely related to how you drive, but it is very real.
No its not. You did something to induce oversteer the car didn't suddenly oversteer by itself.
Quick oversteer != snap oversteer
Say someone is taking a corner too fast and abruptly lifts off the throttle and the car spins. Some people will blame the car and say it has snap oversteer and that is why they spun or crashed, when in reality the car is just reacting to your input. The driver isn't experienced enough to anticipate the cars reaction and control the slide (they also misjudge the corner and/or conditions), which is why its almost always inexperienced drivers saying X car has snap oversteer.
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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by azn akira
No its not. You did something to induce oversteer the car didn't suddenly oversteer by itself.
Quick oversteer != snap oversteer
Say someone is taking a corner too fast and abruptly lifts off the throttle and the car spins. Some people will blame the car and say it has snap oversteer and that is why they spun or crashed, when in reality the car is just reacting to your input. The driver isn't experienced enough to anticipate the cars reaction and control the slide (they also misjudge the corner and/or conditions), which is why its almost always inexperienced drivers saying X car has snap oversteer.
Don't think you understand what a myth is, it means it isn't real. Whether you call it snap oversteer, lift off oversteer, etc, it's still a real thing. Some cars are more prone to induce it than others.

We're talking about street cars, sold to normal people, and the early cars were set up more towards oversteer, it definitely surprised a lot of people. Honda kept changing the suspension set up to calm the rear down through the years to make it more forgiving.


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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 12:16 PM
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We will have to agree to disagree
Oversteer and the various way of inducing it are real, snap oversteer is an excuse used by inexperienced drivers.
I'm not saying the S2000 isn't more reactive to inputs than most other cars, it certainly is, but it doesn't just oversteer for no reason.
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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by azn akira
We will have to agree to disagree
Oversteer and the various way of inducing it are real, snap oversteer is an excuse used by inexperienced drivers.
I'm not saying the S2000 isn't more reactive to inputs than most other cars, it certainly is, but it doesn't just oversteer for no reason.
I agree. It comes down to consistency. The S2k is super consistent -- driver inputs usually induces a response from the chassis, not the other way around.

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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 12:51 PM
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Have driven a CR back to back with my AP1 on a rainy autocross course. Its not like the oversteer response is night and day lol. And it still does it when you make errors. The AP1 is just less forgiving of those errors yes but people make WAY too many excuses by yelling snap oversteer!!!!
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Old Sep 6, 2025 | 06:54 AM
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when you have your car on the limit and feel a "twitch" in the rear,your intuition is to lift. This unloads the rears, grip is gone and you spin.

When you learn that steady throttle and steering inputs is the answer to the "twitch" ,you're good

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