i work at a honda dealership and the word is from the factory reps we will see a face lift for the s2000 in 2004 and a new design in 2006. for the most part the reps have accurate info

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by xviper
[B]Here's my idea.

 

lets be realistic
if it comes out in 05 ill buy 07 so my current is paid off
I will keep it buy the New one
Our current engine?? we all know specs
I figure
new Intelligent Vtec still the newest wildest 4 cyl NA
the guros can estimate size power, 2.2, 2.4?? 280/180???
redline..make it sing to 11k?
Lighter by 150-250 lb??
17 in Forged wheels
update suspension
since it is already 6speed
paddle shifter
SINGLE EXIT EXHAUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a 4 cyl for christs sake
brake ducts that arent fake
better aero work..ie vented hood
NOT a Convertible
visors that actually block the sun
a decent..i say lightly.. stereo
maybe a few Carbon fibre pieces(might mess up price)
and dont fix what isnt broken...the steering unit, the frame
etc
finally..just modernize the 5 yr old design

so i figure still under 40K

technology my friends....
remember the new $675,000 Enzo is amazing..but in 6 yr when they created the next Craparri...the enzo will be old and people will drool of the next newest Dago trash.
no Kraut wagons either..or god forbid.. american

Sorry, dog is jap, car is jap, i love sushi... and the sun rises in the east
plus I got free stuff from VP honda racing..im loyal

 

I don't think Honda wants to create or sell something that would cost more than $40K. That is why they have the Acura line. If Honda did go over $40K that then what is the point of having Acura? Get what I am saying???

 

so get rid of acura and finally sell the nsx under honda's name (in the US market), once and for all...

 

I want this:

2.2L Inline 4
10,000 RPM Redline
280 HP @ 8,000 RPM
200 ft-lbs torque @ 6,000 RPM
2800 lbs or less
18 inch rims (racing harts? - they could pull a mazda)
Brembo Brakes (no more of this retarded Honda single-piston caliper crap)

All for under $37K US

 

Looks a lot like my wish list but I did forget the brakes. Those "retarded Honda single-piston caliper crap" brakes do work well though (for the street). However, I'd also like to see big Brembo brake kit like the one offered by Comptech.



2800 pounds or less? That's what it weighs now! It needs to be couple hundred pounds lighter (at least). I vote for 2500 pounds.

 

what i want from the honda for xmas

titanium connecting rods
- 380 hp @ 10000 rpm
- 300 lb-ft of torque at 4000 rpm
- 11,000 rpm redline
- 2000 lbs.
- all-aluminum body / glass fiber or even carbon fiber
- all-aluminum/titanium suspension and bracing
- titanium mufflers
- 18" forged-aluminum wheels
- 7-speed manual transmission
- decent storage
- lowered suspension
- lower driving position
- maby a bit noisier at lower rpm
- standard vortech turbo
if only they sold that for

 

Mugen has been playing with 2.2l for about 2 years now. Honda will probably use that engine and the new car will be called S2200. It will have i-VTEC, about 280 hp with about 195 lb-ft of torque. We won't see an I-5 or I-6 in the car, to many performance negatives for that to happen.

The original concept car, the SSM had a 2.5l V-5. Personally I'ld like to see a small V-6, a 2.6 or 2.8 liter engine meeting the same performance standards as the F20C. A V-6 would actually move the engine weight farther back from the front axle and would improve this car's low polar moment of inertia. ie even better handling ! Either engine would produce around 300+ hp with 240+ lb-ft of torque. That would be to big of a jump for Honda though, moving from a 2 litre I-4 to to a 2.8 litre V-6. Honda seems to move in small steps once the car is in production. Look at the original S series some 40 years ago. Honda's first roadster was built back in the early 60's. It was the S360, 33hp at 9,000 RPMs, next came the S500 44hp at 9,500 RPMs, next came the S600 57hp at 8,500 RPMs, and finally the S800 with its 70hp at 8,000 RPMs.

 

The original concept car had an I5. Honda's first V5 ever is in the Moto GP RC211V bike.

The 2.2 would be difficult for Honda unless they enlarge the bore substantially (which would require a whole new block casting). If they did create one, don't expect that much output. 280 hp maybe, but the torque would be lower - in the 170-175 lbs-ft range. I-VTEC does nothing to increase peak torque - it only broadens the curve. 80 lbs-ft/liter is about as much as you could expect on a pump gas engine w/o forced induction.

UL

[QUOTE]Originally posted by StwoK
[B]Mugen has been playing with 2.2l for about 2 years now.