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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 04:54 AM
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BTW, if you are worried about fuel prices as a cost of ownership then you might need to check out insurance prices too...
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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wow so premium there is only 91?

in australia 91 is the lowest(normal unleaded) .. then 96 .. then 98. (shell vpower)

whether or not octane readings are different, i dont know ..
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mjb120,Mar 21 2008, 08:50 AM
wow so premium there is only 91?

in australia 91 is the lowest(normal unleaded) .. then 96 .. then 98. (shell vpower)

whether or not octane readings are different, i dont know ..
Same as Hong Kong!

In fact, I think we don't get anything below 96 nowadays
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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RON vs MON. They use different rating methods.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mjb120,Mar 21 2008, 08:50 AM
wow so premium there is only 91?

in australia 91 is the lowest(normal unleaded) .. then 96 .. then 98. (shell vpower)

whether or not octane readings are different, i dont know ..
Most of the world uses the research octane number. We don't use the research octane number here in the States... our octane rating's about 4 or 5 points lower than RON.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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If I see anyone pumping 87 in his S2000 at a gas station, I will walk up to him and make him eat the curb.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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87..... Big No no

93 here in MD
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shy_guyAP1,Mar 20 2008, 01:28 PM
Lower octane burns quicker, with such a high CR (11:1) you want something that burns slower (Higher Octane). If you have fast burning gas it can be completely burnt before the piston reaches TDC (Top Dead Center; the top of the stroke), when this occurs it is called "detonation" because there is incredible forces working against your engine and usually it leads to catastrophic failure. The knock sensor should adjust timing so that it all burns up, but not before reaching TDC.

I spun a rod bearing two years ago in my civic because of this, I was running 93oct but advanced my timing a bit too far and boom! (Well actually it was silent, but the aftermath wasn't).

Not an expert but did I hit the nail on its head?


Detonation is what they are trying to advoid with the high CR motors. But then the timing has to be set to the octane due to the slower speed of the burn and the short time available in the power stroke at high rpm. Our kart motors ran on 100 to 110 octane and had to be set for max cylinder pressure at about 10 degrees pass TDC. Set timing for the wrong octane and get max pressure before or at TDC and you are just hammering your bearings. You couldn't just use higher octane and assume you were getting more power. The timing had to match the octane.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by moogleii,Mar 20 2008, 11:33 PM
Psh, i wish we even had 93 in cali.
east coast FTW. BTW some sunoco's have 94 octane
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Mar 21 2008, 10:50 AM
RON vs MON. They use different rating methods.
Dang, you are smart hehe

Anyway, actually turns out where I live require at least 98 octane (usingt he RON rating). Which is approximately 94-ish using (R+M)/2 rating that US uses.
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