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S2000 as reliable as other Hondas?

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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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Every Honda I've owned as been bullet-proof. I maintained the cars (oil, brakes....) to a "t", put gas in em & NEVER had a problem. Can I expect the same reliability with the S2000. I guess the reason I'm wondering is the s2000 is such a low production car & a high reving car I guess I think of it as something different then a regular Honda. Are repair cost higher?
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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i think the '02 model is pretty much as good an s2k as it gets with all the little nuances fixed.
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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I'd have to say that I would believe the S2000's reliability will be just as good as the other hondas. The F20C is a sturdy block, and it is well designed to take a beating and be run like any other high revving honda. Also keep in mind our cars are built in Japan, rather than here. Maybe that makes a difference in reliability, maybe not. As usual though, the F20C also has the forged crank, forged pistons, and heavy duty bottom end.
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 09:50 PM
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[QUOTE. Are repair cost higher?

I understand that the extended warranty costs are higher, so perhaps repair costs are as well.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by statueman
[QUOTE. Are repair cost higher?

I understand that the extended warranty costs are higher, so perhaps repair costs are as well.
How much is the extended warranty ? In your opinion, is it worth it ?
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:08 AM
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In Consumer Reports, the S2000 is rated "very reliable."
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 04:59 AM
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Having owned almost 20 other Hondas over the years, I think the S2000 has more quirks than other Hondas - but it seems to be as reliable (despite it's more high strung nature).
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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I don't think that where a car is built has anything to do with how well it wears.

I think what matters is the planning that goes into the car.

I wonder what it is that they do in Japan that makes thier products so reliable, not that domestic cars are all that bad. Is the import automotive industry better training thier employees? Is it a historical pride thing. Or do they just take the "let's over build everything" philosophy?

I feel that that is one thing that domestic manufacturers need to get hold of: spend the money now in labor to make a superior product, then reap the benifits of renewed and continuous customer support. I have not been around all that long. I am only half as old as porsche is. I can't imagine that Honda was this successful 20 years ago. It's amazing what a great low cost, phenomenally reliable product can do for a company. (Camry, Accord, LS400..........Miata )

sorry, I could not resist.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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Kamehamaha....interesting question and one for which I have an answer. The man's name was Edward's W. Deming, an American that was shunned because of his thoughts on Quality Assurance and Control in America....he found an audience in Japan that, post World War II wanted to better what Ford had done. Deming, Shuwalt and others taught the Japanese the concept of working to the nominal dimension. If a rod was to be .500 +/-.010, the Japanese were taught to control it at .500 using statistical methods. Americans on the other hand held it to .510 in case there was a flaw that need to be reworked. Americans planned for failure. Remember too, the guy that was drilling the hole for the rod planned for failure too. His .490 +/.010 mating hole was held to the max or .500. So while the American engineers planned for clearance the American machinist planned for rework and defects. Thus the clearances were not nominal as designed for. This problem was highlighted when Ford had a Japanese company make some transmissions many years ago....the Japanese transmission outlasted their US counterparts by 2 to 1. Ford spent a lot of money to determine what was going on (i.e. nominal manufacture). They are credited with bringing statisticcal methods back here to the States. This concept is at the heart of the QS9000 quality system used by the automotive industry today. I could go on and on about this but you asked..........

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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IMO this car is just as reliable as any other Honda. However, I do not think I would ever drive my wife's Accord the way I drive the S2000.

So this is somewhat new territory for Honda. I hope the quality will hold up, but owners of this car will certainly push them a lot more than any other Honda model out there.
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