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S2000 as reliable as other Hondas?

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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If i understand you correctly, you are saying that the Japanese operate very close to ideal specs which translates into a more effecient and longer lasting product?
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by restonS2000

So this is somewhat new territory for Honda. I hope the quality will hold up, but owners of this car will certainly push them a lot more than any other Honda model out there.
So what's new to this territory? Honda has ALWAYS been racing. They have been building racing engines longer than they have been building cars.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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I think the mechanic of the S2000 should be as reliable as other Hondas, since most other Honda cars are like bullet-proof. that is no way for the company less care about the reliable of this very important roadster.

I never have any mechanic problem with my S2000 (this is the first Honda I own)
but from what I seens, I think the interior build quality of the S2000 is same as or even better than some of the other Honda cars.

I know the way of how Japanese company work out things, they could have several meeting of discussion just for a tiny button in the interior.

the way that they train their employee is very very serious.

and I know only the best engineer or mechanic of Honda are allow to work in Tochigi, the factory that made S2000, NSX, and Insight. And those engineers and mechanics are proud that they work in Tochigi to made the best sportcars in Japan.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by boiler
So what's new to this territory? Honda has ALWAYS been racing. They have been building racing engines longer than they have been building cars.
By new territory I meant a consumer car that is high performance and sells for $30K and runs like all other Honda consumer cars.
A race car is pretty much rebuilt from race to race; unlike the S2000 which some people might expect to go 200K miles like their Accords.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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Japanese car manufacturers have maintained for decades that if you build it right the first time, your warranty costs and customer satisfaction levels will more than offset the initial build cost. Read the latest J.D.Powers customer satisfactions indexes. In the first 90 days of ownership as well as first 3 years of ownership Japanese cars always appear in the top 10 and top 50. A article recently appeared in the Wall Street Journal regarding a decline in quality and customer satisfaction for all Mercedes vehicles. The reason was simple: Mercedes made a conscious decision to increase sales volume(which they did: a tenfold increase in sales over nine years) at the expense of quality. When the Mercedes SUV first came off the assembly line in Alabama the quality was a disgrace. It has since improved. But price does not always equal quality.

That said Honda does NOT build the perfect car or SUV. But dollar for dollar you won't find a better value for the money. Plus Hondas are generally more fun to drive. The S2000 speaks volumes about what can be engineered and built that was conceived as a contender to the Porsche and BMW.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Impressive credentials, Utah.

Originally posted by Utah S2K
Kamehamaha....interesting question and one for which I have an answer. The man's name was Edward's W. Deming, an American that was shunned because of his thoughts on Quality Assurance and Control in America....he found an audience in Japan that, post World War II wanted to better what Ford had done. Deming, Shuwalt and others taught the Japanese the concept of working to the nominal dimension. If a rod was to be .500 +/-.010, the Japanese were taught to control it at .500 using statistical methods. Americans on the other hand held it to .510 in case there was a flaw that need to be reworked. Americans planned for failure. Remember too, the guy that was drilling the hole for the rod planned for failure too. His .490 +/.010 mating hole was held to the max or .500. So while the American engineers planned for clearance the American machinist planned for rework and defects. Thus the clearances were not nominal as designed for. This problem was highlighted when Ford had a Japanese company make some transmissions many years ago....the Japanese transmission outlasted their US counterparts by 2 to 1. Ford spent a lot of money to determine what was going on (i.e. nominal manufacture). They are credited with bringing statisticcal methods back here to the States. This concept is at the heart of the QS9000 quality system used by the automotive industry today. I could go on and on about this but you asked..........

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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by Utah S2K
Kamehamaha....interesting question and one for which I have an answer. The man's name was Edward's W. Deming, an American that was shunned because of his thoughts on Quality Assurance and Control in America....he found an audience in Japan that, post World War II wanted to better what Ford had done.
In fact, Dr. Deming was awarded the Second Order Medal of the Sacred Treasure, from Emperor Hirohito of Japan, in 1960, for improvement of quality and of the Japanese economy, through the statistical control of quality:



If you want to learn more about Deming, click below:

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Old Feb 19, 2002 | 08:38 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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The F20C engine is by far as reliable as any other Honda engine. It's the other parts of the car that have me worried.
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