BULLSHIT. You need to learn how to read. ... I'm sure you are not really foolish enough to think that you can go WOT to redline in first without breaking the law

Not sure why you trying to derail my question, but keep in mind I don't live in the same country as you, and not every country has the same laws as yours. Also as I stated before, I don't really care what is legal or not, just what the acceleration numbers for the F20c S2000 are when rolled off the line with minimal revs.

Is it possible to focus at the question at hand instead of what I do in my spare time, how I drive my car, whether it's broken, or whethe it's legal or not?

maybe you should restate the original question

Here you go, taken from my very 1st post. Let me know if it's confusing and I'll do my best to make it clearer:

"Would someone happen to have the acceleration numbers for a (stock) S2000 where a hard launch is not involved? ie. where the car was eased off the line, cluth fully engaged, and then thottle to the floor from something like 5kph? I would love to see the numbers in 10kph increments ..."

Rest of the details of what I'm after are in the very 1st post.

No the mx5 is never faster and yes it is an NC... We are not even at any point

Thanks for that. Good info.

With out any fancy clutch work the MX5 Does have a bit more power around idle 2k ect. so crank to crank a 2-3 mph run the mx5 will leap infront quickly only to fall back.

How far does the MX5 jump ahead? And at what speeds/revs do you start reeling at in?

 

Two points here.
1. If I drive my S2000 in this maner, then I don't use WOT. If you do then you haven't adapted to the S2000 in 7 years! If I'm trying to take off from a light, and need to beat the car next to me because my lane is ending, then I slip the clutch a little bit, go to WOT and shift after VTEC engagement. In normal driving (with a normal start) acceleration numbers aren't usefull, because only partial throttle is used.

2. But comparing how these two cars act in traffic, has little to do with starting off. I make a lot more headway in moving traffic. AKA lane hoping. And in lane hoping, I keep the car on or near the cam. I'm sure the Miata is light in this type of traffic, but it doesn't have the power or the gearing to compete.

But to answer your question, the poorer magazine times are probably caused by this type of start. This would put the S over 6 seconds in 0-60 time.

 

[QUOTE=__redruM,Mar 6 2008, 06:48 PM] If I drive my S2000 in this maner, then I don't use WOT.

 

[QUOTE=RED MX5,Mar 6 2008, 07:11 PM] _redruM, you mentioned acceleration at partial throttle.

 

The S2000 isn't an easy car to go fast in. You have to work the clutch. A pontiac GP-GTP with the SuperCharger for example is an easy car to drive fast. You just put your foot down and go to the best of the cars ability. The MX-5 has a nice wide torque curve that won't complicate the driving for your average hair dresser

In the S2000, you have to work the clutch, get it to the powerband and keep it there. If Davidm want to compare an apple at its worst to an orange at its best, then go ahead, but I think he's being silly.

 

S2k Rolling to 100mph

I'm sitting here w/ a stopwatch and after 10 runs I've got an average of 3.2seconds from engaged clutch to 6000rpm's. At which time he's going 25mph.

 

... Is this guy serious....?

 

Guys, I asked a simple question. I am not looking for a reasons why it's good/valid/innapropriate/etc. I am fully aware that there is a way to go quicker, but I know exactly how quick the S2000 is with an agressive launch and WOT.

What I'm asking is something that I'm not sure about and I'm after some data from someone who can help me. That's all I'm after. So either people can help me, or they cannot.

I've put all this effort into trying to understand DavidM's question and provide some kind of answer, he has now accused me of trying to derail his thread

Thanks for your effort RED MX5, but I thought my question was relatively simple, and I'd like to keep the topic on track in regards to that question. I don't want to debate here why I am asking that question, whether S2000 can go quicker, how one shold drive, what the various standards are, what my experience is, what is legal/not, whether S2000 is quick/slow, etc.

If you can provide figures that I'm asking for then I'll greatly appreciate it. I'll even be happy with the 'calculated' figures for the F20c S2000 as long as the calculated figures match commonly published times by mags (ie. 5-60mph on about 6.8sec, and 0-100mph in about 14.5sec).

All I'm after are some facts.

I'm sitting here w/ a stopwatch and after 10 runs I've got an average of 3.2seconds from engaged clutch to 6000rpm's. At which time he's going 25mph

Thanks for the link ... I tried the same thing and got between 3.8 and 3.9sec ... so not very accurate trying to time it with a stop watch while not being sure when he actually steps on it (as there's a lot of wheen movement until he hits ~4000rpm).

 

You don't have to rev up to VTEC and side-step the clutch to get a fast start. Certianly the best times are posted this way, but slipping the clutch up to 2K or 3K will make a big difference. This isn't much more than what a CDV is doing on an AP2 anyway.

You question is like asking how fast is the S2000 0-60 if you don't use first gear. This is a little interesting, since 2nd gear in an AP1 will get you to 60, but still academic, because there are better and easier ways to get to 60, with don't require you to trash the clutch and rear.

 

is a little interesting, but still academic, because there are better and easier ways to get to 60, with don't require you to trash the clutch and rear.

Sure there arequicker ways to get to 60mph (but that goes fgor any car), but that still does not answer my question. I'm am interested in the F20c S2000's pull/acceleration at the lower revs. What that would tell us is how much power/accelerative ability it has there.

I'm intrested to know how quick an S2000 is when rolling from low revs (ie. 1000 - 1500rpm) to the top of the rev-range. This shows how trackable the engine is throughout the entire rev-range. I'd be happy with figures for the 1st gear, but also in 2nd gear they would do.

I'm interested in all aspects of the S2000 ... not just the bit between 6 and 9k rpm. Form me the F20c is plenty flexible enough even at low to mid revs (which I'm more than comfortable using ie. 3rd gear has nice pull from ~25mph), I just want it supported by some numbers.