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This is the exact reason why I sold my '03 Tacoma for an S2000. (I had ricer Hondas, Toyotas and Nissans in the '90s... missed them and wanted to get into a small car again)
Tacoma was $15k brand new, S2000 was +$33k brand new.
Sold the Tacoma with 125k miles for $10k in 2013, and then got a GPW '03 S2000 with 94k miles for $12k.
I got a car that is worth twice as much brand-new and is twice as quality. Good trade.
Maybe twice the "quality" in terms of being what you wanted and having leather seats. Verdict is out on overall quality as Tacomas last forever. I have done more to my 140,000 mile S2000 than I have my 250,000 mile 4runner by a long shot already and I have only had the S2k for 40,000 miles. Nothing major, but from what I have experienced and know, the S still has more issues normally than my old Toyota ever has been known to have. And I am not counting items that were due to autocrossing. When I own a honda that requires less than $1500 in repairs in 250,000 miles I will maybe change my mind Now, overall, the S2000 is a very reliable car and we are comparing reliable to reliable, so this is not a diss on the S2k. But I have never owned a vehicle as reliable as the Toyotas I have owned, including a 300,000 mile + 78 Corolla I once owned. Our 01 4Runner and 05 Scion have been rock solid reliable so far. The 13 Tacoma is new to us as of a couple of years ago but do not expect much less from it based upon how the others from that generation have faired.
For an exotic posing as an everyday street car the S2000 really has a great track record of being reliable but I don't think it is any where near the reliability of a Tacoma. 1st Gen Tacoma's are still driving around while the frame is literally rusting itself to pieces. Tacoma's/Hilux are favored by terrorists/freedom fighters/an adventurers the world over mainly because of their reliability and overall ruggedness.
I also agree Toyota has a better reliability track record than Honda. Toyota Sienna reliability > Honda Odyssey (kids, man! Kids! ). Tundra > Ridgeline. Camry > Accord. Corolla vs civic...it's been hit or miss with these last few generations but Toyota A-series > Honda B-series for sure.
Honda's are more more engaging to drive and a bit more strung out but Toyota's reliability can't be beat...yet. I'm thinking the Koreans are going to be outclassing the Japanese any day now.
I am really surprised how so few s2000s sold compared to the Miatas? The difference of $7000 is not much for what performance you are getting. Another thing is Honda did a terrible job of marketing the S2000 you can tell with so many people not knowing this car existed. I don't even remember seeing any advertisement of it on TV.
True enthusiast car. It was never supposed to be a mass production car so marketing probably was not in the forefront. It was a passion build. It was originally intended to be produced for the year 2000 only.
not a huge fan of the front shot, but that side shot is beautiful. Owning a miata isnt for me, i think id rather buy a used 370z with cash in hand than consider a new miata.
I bought the S2000 just to tide me over until some nice used ND2s become readily available. They are deceptively quick, and as always sooooo engaging.
Verdict is out on overall quality as Tacomas last forever.
Now, overall, the S2000 is a very reliable car and we are comparing reliable to reliable, so this is not a diss on the S2k.
But I have never owned a vehicle as reliable as the Toyotas I have owned,
I disagree. Tacomas/Toyotas are reliable; but not as much as a Honda (especially '90s and early '00s Hondas) imo.
I also sold that Tacoma because it needed issues fixed... had a significant rear main seal leak and the water pump was going out.
I had Hondas and Toyotas in the past, and my Hondas rarely had any problems. The only issues of my old Hondas were clutch replacement and a coil or ignitor going out. Toyotas - water pumps always go bad like clockwork at 80-100k miles and rear main seals are common to leakage too. Honda wins for me in terms of reliability by a long shot. Of course, both Hondas & Toyotas need the usual clutch, timing belt, pulley/bearing, wheel bearing, etc. replacements.
I didn't really mean only/just "Twice the quality"... I meant more, "I got Twice the car" for the same price/trade ...costed twice as much when brand new, and most likely twice as much (if not more) r&d, design, engineering, build, parts, technology, etc. etc.
The s2000 of course, and my 00 4x4 Tacoma with 205k on the clock have been my primary two cars for many years and will continue to be. Both fit the duty, performance and reliability per dollar ratio better then anything else on the market for me.
Speaking on reliability, im probably gonna stay Honda. Im at 375,000km on my del sol and aside from a head gasket 3 years ago that cost me 200$/ with head bolts, but I typically spend 100$/yr on parts. Drive her year round and she's safe on winters. She's the only car I've ever owned in 12 years and Ive cut rust and repainted it 3 times lol, but to no cost of my own since I settled with cash and do my own bodywork. Two of those were full paint jobs after being rammed in parking lots. It was white but it's orange.
I've always thought of the s2000 as an upgraded del sol, and I hope it's just as easy to work on. Getting up and under the steering wheel has got to be just as much fun lol.
Kudos for going to a neat color when you needed a respray. So many people just stay with boring stock colors.
Also... older Tacomas.. Ugh. The rust. Then again, my father got a crazy deal when his was recalled. He was given a large lump sum of cash for his recalled Tacoma which was enough to buy a new one... and zero percent financing on the new one. So he kept the cash and got a new truck with zero percent financing (he's an investor, so he made money off the money, too). It was a huge win/win/win. He's friends with the guy who owns that dealership, not sure if he got special treatment or that was the norm.
My family has had GM/Toyota/Honda and I feel like the Toyota's and Honda's were nearly trouble free. I did have a Toyota hybrid system blow out when I was doing 90MPH in rush hour traffic on a 105 degree day (part of a recall I had yet to do). That was scary as hell since I was in the fast lane and had to scoot over four lanes. Most of my cars were GM or Chrysler and they were never super expensive to fix but they seemed to need something or other every year or two. My Jeep Wrangler (2013 10A) has been dead reliable so far, though.
Oh yeah, and I still feel that the S2000 has a soul and the Miata does not.