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Are S2000s not "in" anymore?

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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 04:52 PM
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With regard to forum traffic, it could be a lot worse. The facebook groups will eventually fade and hopefully people will come back to the source of knowledge on these cars.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 03:37 AM
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If the mod scene is dying out for S2000s, I think that is a good thing. Too many good examples get destroyed by modding, and especially modding done poorly.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 03:41 AM
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Go back to facebook and quit trolling here.

Compare the sheer number of Civics, Integras and Accords sold compared to the S2000. Of course those forums are more active and parts more readily available.

Everyone has an Evo now.

Link to your "S2000 For Sale" post?

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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
Look at the youth today, do you think many of them care about 2 seat sports cars ?, or care to drive on a closed circuit road course track ? Harley Davidson will have much fewer customers a few years down the road as today's youth age, they just don't care about the same things that past generations used to like. They can get into a New Tesla rather than finance a used car purchase like an S2000.. o
Did you compare the S2000 and similar cars to Harley Davidson? The youth doesn't buy Harley's because they are ancient technology sold at ridiculous prices. We may also have different views on youth, but I'd have to disagree with them not wanting these types of cars.

As for the S2000 not being "in" anymore? I'd say that's subjective on what certain people want. But for being an almost 20 year old design, the values seemed to have stopped lowering and the most random people will tell me how awesome of a car this must be to own.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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I'm in my mid-20's.

My car gets compliments from non-car people of all ages & from car dorks of a number of ages.

But my car looks stupid.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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There are still car reviews like the Miata ND and the Toyota 86 etc nowadays that use S2000 for comparison. Why? Because S2000 is indeed too good.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by silverstone_f22
Did you compare the S2000 and similar cars to Harley Davidson? The youth doesn't buy Harley's because they are ancient technology sold at ridiculous prices. We may also have different views on youth, but I'd have to disagree with them not wanting these types of cars.

As for the S2000 not being "in" anymore? I'd say that's subjective on what certain people want. But for being an almost 20 year old design, the values seemed to have stopped lowering and the most random people will tell me how awesome of a car this must be to own.
I think you're missing the point. It's not just Harley Davidson, it's all the motorcycle brands (Yamaha has already discontinued the R6 in Europe, and the CBR600RR will follow suit there, and eventually the USA as well). Source: I ride motorcycles, and I'm a millennial. He is right though, studies show that my generation is purchasing less motorcycles and less sports cars. I can post sources for this information if you want, but all you have to do is look around.

Not saying it's a bad thing, but millennials and later generations are going towards efficiency and bang for our buck. Can't really blame us with how the economy is in the US, student loan debt, and how jobs after college aren't enough to pay them back in a reasonable amount of time. Motorcycles and cars like the s2000 are toys, and younger people simply can't afford them anymore (most of us).

EDIT: Also, every time I go to the track I'm easily one of the youngest riders there (I'm 24). Most track junkies I know are in their 30's and 40's and I go to 3 different tracks.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kennychiwa
I think you're missing the point. It's not just Harley Davidson, it's all the motorcycle brands (Yamaha has already discontinued the R6 in Europe, and the CBR600RR will follow suit there, and eventually the USA as well). Source: I ride motorcycles, and I'm a millennial. He is right though, studies show that my generation is purchasing less motorcycles and less sports cars. I can post sources for this information if you want, but all you have to do is look around.

Not saying it's a bad thing, but millennials and later generations are going towards efficiency and bang for our buck. Can't really blame us with how the economy is in the US, student loan debt, and how jobs after college aren't enough to pay them back in a reasonable amount of time. Motorcycles and cars like the s2000 are toys, and younger people simply can't afford them anymore (most of us).

EDIT: Also, every time I go to the track I'm easily one of the youngest riders there (I'm 24). Most track junkies I know are in their 30's and 40's and I go to 3 different tracks.
Not sure if the cost of the s2k is whats holding younger people like me from buying it. S2k's used now are actually pretty reasonable compared to buying just a regular new camry or accord. But kids still end up buying cars like that probably because of practicality. I had this talk with my ex before, and she mentioned that most of her friends just wanted something safe, practical, and usable in different situations. Its based on where in your life you are, and s2ks for most people are just not practical. Personally I live in the city, and walk to work everyday, so its ok that my only car is just a toy. But if I had a driving commute or didnt have a specified covered garage space, I wouldnt have bought my s2k. All the things just lined up right in my life at the moment for the purchase to make sense.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by balkolite
Not sure if the cost of the s2k is whats holding younger people like me from buying it. S2k's used now are actually pretty reasonable compared to buying just a regular new camry or accord. But kids still end up buying cars like that probably because of practicality. I had this talk with my ex before, and she mentioned that most of her friends just wanted something safe, practical, and usable in different situations. Its based on where in your life you are, and s2ks for most people are just not practical. Personally I live in the city, and walk to work everyday, so its ok that my only car is just a toy. But if I had a driving commute or didnt have a specified covered garage space, I wouldnt have bought my s2k. All the things just lined up right in my life at the moment for the purchase to make sense.
The fact that you can't get a loan on them anymore, for the most part, is the holdup. Most younger people don't have 12k+ sitting around to buy a car outright, and those that do are likely to take out a loan for something in the mid 20+ range. I learned my 'live within your means' lesson in my early 20's.

Originally Posted by kennychiwa
EDIT: Also, every time I go to the track I'm easily one of the youngest riders there (I'm 24). Most track junkies I know are in their 30's and 40's and I go to 3 different tracks.
This was the same for me when I was tracking motorcycles from ~25-29, and it's even more true when tracking cars now at 30. Tracking cars is expensive up front; a lot of the younger people can't do it since they are also financing cars for $400+/mo along with paying over $100/mo for insurance.

Tracking motorcycles isn't cheap and has the tendency to get really expensive when crashes happen. I bowed out due to the toll it took on my body, along with toeing into an area where it wasn't about fun anymore.
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 05:20 PM
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I don't think so. There were about 25 S2000s on track at Gridlife South. I think we had the most cars, outside of the 240s that were drifting.
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