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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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If you can't give the car the "slightest" addition of gas to make a standing right turn, how the "bleep" do you handle the car at all. These threads are driving me crazy I think I'll trade it in on a Lincoln Town Car. Please, helpful advice would be appreciated. "Learn to drive" doesn't tell me how to make a right turn without the use of the throttle. Just me...nevermind.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol,Oct 7 2005, 07:10 AM


tires, tires, tires, and some common sense.....
Tires are the key factor. Many people drive on tires not suited for standing water; on top of that, they over-gas it (and probably brake at the wrong point as well). I know I'd shit myself driving on S02s in the rain; for that reason, I ditched those immediatley because of where I'm living.

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 07:02 AM
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any powerful front engine rear wheel drive car can just get loose from under your ass in the rain.. you must drive according to the weather and "know" how to respond..
take a driving school if you can afford it or get the chance.. you WILL learn a lot .. even if you are a seasoned driver..

and.. its fun as hell
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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Oh please, search engine gods, may it work again one day Back in the day, when I had my Austin-Healey, I never even thought about these things Of course, there was the time I decided not to tap my brakes going down a snowy hill and downshifted instead Did not remember basic law of physics...braking is braking, whether you use the clutch or brakes...Can't remember if it was a 180 or 360, but I never made that mistake again
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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LEARN TO DRIVE!!!


Take a curve doing 30 mph in the rain and you'll change your mind.
Nope, he won't, nor will I. Everything depends on the radius of the curve, whether or not it's an increasing radius or decreasing radius, whether there is standing water along that curve, the conditions of the tires at the time, the ambient temperature at the time. The Doc or I will most likely NOT make any sudden steering inputs while negotiating this curve nor will we suddenly give it gas or let off gas. If the conditions do not allow driving through such a curve at any desired speed, WE WOULD SLOW DOWN! That's driver sense.

I think it's non-OEM tires / incorrect tire pressures that really wreck havoc on how the car behaves in the wet. I have some non-OEM tires in the rear...
Mixing of tires on a car is an OWNER decision. Incorrect pressures is DRIVER'S responsibility to not let it happen. Given these voluntary choices, the driver WOULD SLOW DOWN!

it's a matter of telling it to do the right things.


you have to slow down and be careful


and driving smart.


yesterday I was going 50mph on the local Hwy , I had like 20% thread on the rear tires and maybe 50% font tires and I went of the road,

....BTW I was going straight and I think I hydroplaned because my tail pulled to the driver side and started spinning, I felt like I was on ICE
I trust you have now figured out that maybe 50 mph was too fast given the conditions of the driving environment and the condition of your tires?

Please, helpful advice would be appreciated. "Learn to drive" doesn't tell me how to make a right turn without the use of the throttle.
NOONE can tell you about or show you or teach you COMMON SENSE. It's common sense that will tell you that when something changes in what you've been doing normally, then you should change something in the way you do it. You learn to understand the driving environment and how this relates to the characteristics of the car and way it is equipped and how this relates to your level of driving expertise and experience. You CAN'T give it the "slightest" (a bit exagerated) bit of gas mid turn IF you haven't got a clue as to how to react with countersteer or if you give it gas in the wrong part of the turn. How do you suppose some of us drive in the snow? You think we simply don't turn?

Tires are the key factor. Many people drive on tires not suited for standing water; on top of that, they over-gas it (and probably brake at the wrong point as well). I know I'd shit myself driving on S02s in the rain
"Tires" are a "FACTOR". The KEY factor is the driver's ability to understand what those tires can or can't do and drive accordingly.

any powerful front engine rear wheel drive car can just get loose from under your ass in the rain.. you must drive according to the weather and "know" how to respond..

and.. its fun as hell
BINGO! BTW, it doesn't take a powerful engine either.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by carpe diem,Oct 7 2005, 08:41 AM
If you can't give the car the "slightest" addition of gas to make a standing right turn, how the "bleep" do you handle the car at all. These threads are driving me crazy I think I'll trade it in on a Lincoln Town Car. Please, helpful advice would be appreciated. "Learn to drive" doesn't tell me how to make a right turn without the use of the throttle. Just me...nevermind.
Enjoy the Lincoln. If they are driving you crazy don't read them, just change the channel.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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The S-02's certainly aren't the best tire when it's raining, but they can keep the car on the road just fine, even with a crappy driver. I am a crappy driver and simply slow down to the speed limit or lower when it's raining or the roads are wet.

I don't think there's any absolutes here. It's a matter of whether an individual driver can handle driving at particular speeds under a given set of conditions. If you understand your limits, you'll be fine. Personally, I know I'm not a great driver so I take it easy in the rain and don't try to be one.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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I have the same problem in the rain, or wet roads for that matter. With mild mild accelleration in a straight line, in 2nd or 3rd, the tail end will start to kick out.

I thought it was me or the tires, but i have all-weather tires, and i think i'm pretty good in the rain. It might be the car. Maybe it's soo light.

My truck and mustang have NO problems in the rain, and both have Nitto DR's and have alot of torque (and hp for that matter). Maybe it's because they are heavier. Who knows.

My 2 cents
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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[QUOTE=xviper,Oct 7 2005, 08:03 AM]
Nope, he won't, nor will I.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Can somebody host a pic for me to spice up this thread a lil bit......?


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