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Ok so here is my question. Do the people with a certified car have the same concerns that the people with HondaCare do? If my car is Certified and I put an intake on it can they cancel the whole "warranty" like they can cancel the HondaCare extended contract?
I have a certified car and also have the HondaCare extended contract to cover things not covered on certified cars such as electronics, etc. What should my modding concerns be?
I have a certified car and also have the HondaCare extended contract to cover things not covered on certified cars such as electronics, etc. What should my modding concerns be?
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no. a certified used warranty is NOT the hondacare extended service contract.
a certified used warranty extension is still subject to the laws of the MM-warranty act.
if you have a hondacare warranty/extended service contract, IMO it's useless. if you have one SINGLE mod, even a different aftermarket rearview mirror, or stereo, or even a different shift knob, they can, and most likely WILL, void any and all warranty claims.
and even if your car is stock through and through, they could easily claim suspeceted abuse. and there is nothing you can do.
one such example. a member of this forum had his transmission go (2nd gear countershaft went I think). he had hondacare warranty. the hondacare rep came to look at the car. saw from 50 feet away that he had a carbon fiber hood, and denied his warranty claim. he didn't even get within 50 feet of the car, nor even look at the parts or anything that the service people had to say. he saw the CF hood, and poof - denied.
a certified used warranty extension is still subject to the laws of the MM-warranty act.
if you have a hondacare warranty/extended service contract, IMO it's useless. if you have one SINGLE mod, even a different aftermarket rearview mirror, or stereo, or even a different shift knob, they can, and most likely WILL, void any and all warranty claims.
and even if your car is stock through and through, they could easily claim suspeceted abuse. and there is nothing you can do.
one such example. a member of this forum had his transmission go (2nd gear countershaft went I think). he had hondacare warranty. the hondacare rep came to look at the car. saw from 50 feet away that he had a carbon fiber hood, and denied his warranty claim. he didn't even get within 50 feet of the car, nor even look at the parts or anything that the service people had to say. he saw the CF hood, and poof - denied.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Aug 9 2005, 03:07 PM
no. a certified used warranty is NOT the hondacare extended service contract.
a certified used warranty extension is still subject to the laws of the MM-warranty act.
a certified used warranty extension is still subject to the laws of the MM-warranty act.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Aug 9 2005, 03:07 PM
no. a certified used warranty is NOT the hondacare extended service contract.
a certified used warranty extension is still subject to the laws of the MM-warranty act.
if you have a hondacare warranty/extended service contract, IMO it's useless. if you have one SINGLE mod, even a different aftermarket rearview mirror, or stereo, or even a different shift knob, they can, and most likely WILL, void any and all warranty claims.
and even if your car is stock through and through, they could easily claim suspeceted abuse. and there is nothing you can do.
one such example. a member of this forum had his transmission go (2nd gear countershaft went I think). he had hondacare warranty. the hondacare rep came to look at the car. saw from 50 feet away that he had a carbon fiber hood, and denied his warranty claim. he didn't even get within 50 feet of the car, nor even look at the parts or anything that the service people had to say. he saw the CF hood, and poof - denied.
a certified used warranty extension is still subject to the laws of the MM-warranty act.
if you have a hondacare warranty/extended service contract, IMO it's useless. if you have one SINGLE mod, even a different aftermarket rearview mirror, or stereo, or even a different shift knob, they can, and most likely WILL, void any and all warranty claims.
and even if your car is stock through and through, they could easily claim suspeceted abuse. and there is nothing you can do.
one such example. a member of this forum had his transmission go (2nd gear countershaft went I think). he had hondacare warranty. the hondacare rep came to look at the car. saw from 50 feet away that he had a carbon fiber hood, and denied his warranty claim. he didn't even get within 50 feet of the car, nor even look at the parts or anything that the service people had to say. he saw the CF hood, and poof - denied.
Maybe they're just so removed from the day to day running of the business that they don't know what's going on.
I worked for a guy when I was in college who had started in the car business. He owned a Ford/Lincoln/Merc dealership in the South. He sold it and was doing other things, but his friends used to tell stories about how he'd do every job in the dealership for one day each month! He'd even repo cars during the local college's football games because he knew everyone was at the game!
Amazing that these guys have so much invested and don't even have a clue. Other businesses have "secret shoppers" who are hired to come in and go through the buying/service experience and then report to the owners all the gory details. I own a business and I would fxxxing kill someone who worked for me who treated my customers this way.
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Originally Posted by trunger,Aug 9 2005, 09:36 AM
whatever guys..
having a intake that brings more air into your engine.. means bringing in more other objects.would cause it to void your warranty. even though there is nice dealerships that wont mind. i would have to say this guy was doing his job.. and for the clips breaking how much are those?.
i have talked to honda about what mods i can have and cant have.
and they told me definately not a aftermarket intake.
i was allowed to have suspension, exhaust and that was pretty much it.
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extended warrnaty is good sometimes.. just cause there could be problems later on.. its just that they are more anal about it usually.. after the regular warranty has been done.
i know when i have 20,000kms on my car. i am going to get everythign checked up and that can be warranteed. even my seats headlights and taillights.. and have a nice engine check up uopn
having a intake that brings more air into your engine.. means bringing in more other objects.would cause it to void your warranty. even though there is nice dealerships that wont mind. i would have to say this guy was doing his job.. and for the clips breaking how much are those?.
i have talked to honda about what mods i can have and cant have.
and they told me definately not a aftermarket intake.
i was allowed to have suspension, exhaust and that was pretty much it.
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extended warrnaty is good sometimes.. just cause there could be problems later on.. its just that they are more anal about it usually.. after the regular warranty has been done.
i know when i have 20,000kms on my car. i am going to get everythign checked up and that can be warranteed. even my seats headlights and taillights.. and have a nice engine check up uopn
You talked to Honda about what you are "allowed"?! It's YOUR car. You can strap a jet engine onto the car and it doesn't just "void" the warranty. They need to prove how a specific mod caused the specific failure they are refusing to honor the claim for.
If you are asking your dealer for permission before modding, you are just being tooled.
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Originally Posted by steve c,Aug 9 2005, 08:01 AM
Mitsubishi taking pictures of EVO owners at track events and sending them letters voiding their warranties comes to mind ...
I would never own a Mitsubishi t-shirt after the BS they've pulled on the owners.
Some Honda dealers may blow, but at least it isn't Honda corporate trying to screw you over.
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This is all good input guys. I will have to check the fine print to see if I should just get my money back.
It was, after all, some $1,500 for the extended "warranty" for 100,000mi.
I would hate for them to just deny a tranny problem after my factory warranty is done just because I installed an aftermarket stereo or something retarded like that.
I got this warranty because I feel I'll be keeping this car well beyond the 36k miles the factory covers repairs.
It was, after all, some $1,500 for the extended "warranty" for 100,000mi.
I would hate for them to just deny a tranny problem after my factory warranty is done just because I installed an aftermarket stereo or something retarded like that.
I got this warranty because I feel I'll be keeping this car well beyond the 36k miles the factory covers repairs.
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Originally Posted by KWgpws2k,Aug 8 2005, 04:34 PM
heres the story people....... i installed a aem v2 and invidia catback exahaust last week on my new 05 gpw that ive had for just about a month now. When installing the intake, i removed the front bumper and mananged to break off the bracket that hooks the bumper under either of the headlights. (i broke the passenger side one).....anyways i go to Hoehn Honda, Carlsbad CA, where the car was purchased to inquire about the small plastic bracket that i broke. Without it there is a small gap in between the headlight and bumper that i just cant stand. The service manage says,"why did you took the front bumper off, was it to install a cold air intake?" ........i confirm his accusations. Then he says "how many miles does this car have".....2270......"what year?".....05..... "well i regret to inform you that you have now voided the warranty on this car. The warranty that covers the drivetrain, has been completly voided."
To my knowledge, to void the warranty, the part that I installed has to be proven to be the cause of a problem with my car, correct? they cant just void the warranty JUST because its on there right?
my question is what to do, return the thing to stock and enjoy it? sell this thing and get something that the stealership wont freak about a damn cai and catback? or do i just mod away and give them the finger???? any insight would be great guys, i dont know what to do.
To my knowledge, to void the warranty, the part that I installed has to be proven to be the cause of a problem with my car, correct? they cant just void the warranty JUST because its on there right?
my question is what to do, return the thing to stock and enjoy it? sell this thing and get something that the stealership wont freak about a damn cai and catback? or do i just mod away and give them the finger???? any insight would be great guys, i dont know what to do.
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Originally Posted by OCMusicJunkie,Aug 9 2005, 04:24 PM
Taking pictures, and checking event standings online against owner lists.
I would never own a Mitsubishi t-shirt after the BS they've pulled on the owners.
Some Honda dealers may blow, but at least it isn't Honda corporate trying to screw you over.
I would never own a Mitsubishi t-shirt after the BS they've pulled on the owners.
Some Honda dealers may blow, but at least it isn't Honda corporate trying to screw you over.
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Oh brother...
All San Diego area Honda dealers suck, period. Hell, the whole automotive industry, next to perhaps only cell phones, sucks. There are notable exceptions but few. Visit the SoCal and San Diego forums for specific regional advice.
All San Diego area Honda dealers suck, period. Hell, the whole automotive industry, next to perhaps only cell phones, sucks. There are notable exceptions but few. Visit the SoCal and San Diego forums for specific regional advice.