Does the S2000 is a great "learning car" to track driving for the first time or you need more seat time before ? Like i don't want the car to "slow me" i would say as a driver i really want to learn

 

Yes, its a good car to learn on if you already have basic skill. Its not as forgiving as a Miata or BRZ, and the learning curve can be steep.

There's a lot of room to accommodate your own growth as well, without modifying the car at all.

Maintenance is absolutely key. Torque your oil filter (not by hand). Get good pads and fluid. Use only genuine Honda for most parts. Keep it full of oil. And go have fun.

 

Agree with going with the ND2 as the best option in your case. As pointed out, the S2000 is now an old car and didn't sell too many during its stint, so parts become an issue. Plus it is hard to find a well, maintained one that has not been crashed or molested.

The ND2 performance is really good, parts and aftermarket are abundant, and you wouldn't feel as bad wrecking it or breaking something on the track as you would with an S2000. GT86 only if you need more space and don't want a convertible.

If my S2000 is ever totalled, I don't know if I would be willing to shell out 35K+ at current prices for a mint example to replace it. I'd be taking a hard look at a new ND2 club trim that I can fully enjoy and not worry about it too much if anything happens.

 

I love the 86; but only because it's a true coupe, nice proportions, very good handling.
But, biggest deterrents are its' engine/drivetrain obviously... and also its' cheap, chintzy quality - all of the suspensions parts/components, arms, etc. are cheapy stamped steel.

Compare that to the ND2... it looks super high quality under there - cast aluminum arms, etc. The bottom is also covered for better aero. Better shifter feel. I also prefer an inline over a weird boxer. Just higher quality all around vs a Subaru.
Only think I don't like about the ND2 is it looks a bit bubbly and toy-like.

Nothing really beats Honda quality... but, yeah, mint S2ks are too expensive now. I'd just buy a new CTR if I had the money, lol. Not an FR, but at least it looks clean now/again and is Honda quality (no Subaru BS). Super expensive tho.

 

Yeah the New ctr is like 80k in France but i would love that, integra we only got thé type r and its 20k for 200km its like this market dont want People to have fun.

 

Salut! Ca va?

From a motorcycle riders perspective, wich applys to cars in this case:
When you want to learn to drive fast, you will have a crash here and there. You need a vehicle where you could buy plenty of used parts, cheap.
To my knowledge, only 700 (or so) S2000 are sold or left in France, is that right? It will be a problem to find used parts.

 

I am at the border to belgium, and there a garage named S2000 parts Europe he got a full network within the Europe, and he got every consumable, every piece in demand in stock even motors, transmission swap to lhd etc etc and he sell a lot of S2000 from across the world who is immaculate that why i wanted to try buying one of my dream car

 

Ah yes, i know this shop. But keep in mind that Parts become more and more critical and that sometimes you search weeks or months for a part wich in contrast you can buy and have it deliverd to your door in a few days for a Mazda MX5 / Miata. .
Maybe in 10 Years Honda discovers that they can make serious money with it and start reproducing parts, but how knows...

If you like the S2000, go for it. It´s a great car.

 

Test drive the ND2 and the s2000.

The s2000 is the better value since it will retain its value vs an ND2 which will lose value over time.

The s2000 needs to be driven hard to enjoy. The MD2 and it’s floaty suspension setup can be enjoyed without hard driving.

The s2000 is not as intimidating as you might think from a driver and a maintenance aspect. Just don’t be dumb.

if you enjoy driving hard then s2000. If you want a more leisurely pace then ND2.

if you’ve always wanted an s2000, it’s the right choice. You will not regret it.

 

enough with the oil filter. jk jk

On a serious note I did get to drive a nd2 with light mods and a short shifter. I was surprised with how fun it was to drive. I wouldn't hesitate to get one as a daily.