Seats stolen....AGAIN!
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From: bloomfield hills
Originally Posted by mitsu13gman,Feb 9 2009, 11:31 AM
The sh!tstorm has settled a bit, but just to reiterate for the OP, he is NOT at fault for having his seats stolen.
The THEIF is!!!
I truly don't understand how we as a society have arrived at a place where it is the owner's fault that something is stolen
My sincere condolences to the OP. Honestly, it sounds like your best bet is to just turn the car in early on the lease. Perhaps explain it to your insurance company and see if there is some way they and the dealership can work out a way to perhaps even credit you for the rental expenditure you would have needed to absorb had you had the car repaired and then returned it. It's clear that, barring extreme measures on your part, this is simply going to happen again.
Alternatively, you might discuss this with your local police department to have them use your car as a bait car and catch these guys finally. Three counts of vandalism and felony theft should be enough to get the local DA interested in things...
The THEIF is!!!
I truly don't understand how we as a society have arrived at a place where it is the owner's fault that something is stolen
My sincere condolences to the OP. Honestly, it sounds like your best bet is to just turn the car in early on the lease. Perhaps explain it to your insurance company and see if there is some way they and the dealership can work out a way to perhaps even credit you for the rental expenditure you would have needed to absorb had you had the car repaired and then returned it. It's clear that, barring extreme measures on your part, this is simply going to happen again.
Alternatively, you might discuss this with your local police department to have them use your car as a bait car and catch these guys finally. Three counts of vandalism and felony theft should be enough to get the local DA interested in things...
J/K
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From: sunny suisun
well that sucks... and knowing insurance companies they probably will feed you some bs about how this may not be a real claim and how this could be insurance fraud etc etc... hope you dont have aaa lol
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Originally Posted by shotiable,Feb 9 2009, 09:27 AM
well that sucks... and knowing insurance companies they probably will feed you some bs about how this may not be a real claim and how this could be insurance fraud etc etc... hope you dont have aaa lol
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Originally Posted by mitsu13gman,Feb 9 2009, 08:31 AM
I truly don't understand how we as a society have arrived at a place where it is the owner's fault that something is stolen
Just that there were (very reasonable) things he could have done to limit his exposure.
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From: Granville OH
There's a big difference between minimizing risk by taking precautions and being at fault.
When I bought my car 6 years ago, I installed an alarm with a battery backup (so they can't disable it), proximity sensors and a remote pager. I also installed seat locks, and when I'm not traveling, the car is always parked in my garage.
If everyone did what I have done, there would be far fewer stolen seats and everyone's insurance would benefit. It's not about blame - it's about risk avoidance.
By parking your car outside without an alarm and without seat locks, you are increasing the probability of having your seats stolen. I don't care how you candy-coat it, that's a risk I was not willing to take, but you were. If you were not willing to take that risk, you would have done something about it.
When I bought my car 6 years ago, I installed an alarm with a battery backup (so they can't disable it), proximity sensors and a remote pager. I also installed seat locks, and when I'm not traveling, the car is always parked in my garage.
If everyone did what I have done, there would be far fewer stolen seats and everyone's insurance would benefit. It's not about blame - it's about risk avoidance.
By parking your car outside without an alarm and without seat locks, you are increasing the probability of having your seats stolen. I don't care how you candy-coat it, that's a risk I was not willing to take, but you were. If you were not willing to take that risk, you would have done something about it.
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Originally Posted by Lane03,Feb 10 2009, 09:31 AM
Wouldn't red loctite work just as well as seat locks, and cost a lot less?
It's going to be tough for the shop tech to get those bolts out to replace the seats when they are frozen in place. Same scenario goes for any situation where the seats need to come out.