S2000 Talk Discussions related to the S2000, its ownership and enthusiasm for it.

Shame on me

Thread Tools
 
Old Nov 7, 2019 | 10:00 AM
  #11  
na2king's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
Default

Yeah, the hooliganism ebbs and flows. I am sure part of the reason why we own an S2K is that we can be "shameful" at any enjoyable moment.

I am glad you are enjoying your retirement!!! Cheers!
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2019 | 10:26 AM
  #12  
s2000Junky's Avatar
Community Organizer
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 31,070
Likes: 566
Default

There isn't a day i'm in this car that I don't have my right foot planted to the floor most any chance I get, and I look for opportunity's to do it. I'm also supercharged so not only is the car more thrilling begging you to drive like a hooligan, you appear like one too so it takes some added self control. The F20 engine is already very peaky, but then putting a supercharger on it, where now your making roughly the same power as before under 5k rpms, but now making around double what it was before above that as you get to redline, so all this car wants you to do is rev the snot out of it everywhere you go and there is nothing more fun. This car 100% is for fun, if your not having fun there is little practical reason to own it.

Last edited by s2000Junky; Nov 7, 2019 at 10:31 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2019 | 08:26 AM
  #13  
redgs4's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 63
Likes: 10
From: Fremont
Default

Originally Posted by ES2K
I've owned my S for over 10 years with modest mods: AP1 flywheel and clutch slave cylinder and FPSport Ohlins DFV coilovers. I find that I am starting to drive like a hooligan (I'm retired); running deep into VTEC territory before shifting to next gear. I tend to keep transmission in a gear that puts the engine at 3K rpm so I have torque on hand while driving surface streets. I feel like I am making a spectacle by engaging VTEC on the street, yet I enjoy the kick in the butt the torque provides. I believe that I am spoiled by my newer family cars that can pull hard at low rpm without having to announce my presence. Is there a 12 step program for my addiction?
Sounds familiar. I picked up my MY06 just over 10 years back but at the time it had a very loud exhaust (in VTEC, at least) so I always drove it mellow. I retired a few years back and decided to keep the S for a little longer so I "downgraded" to a quiet Tanabe exhaust. BEST move ever - now every drive is an exploration to 8K+ without announcing myself to every cop within 5 miles or being THAT obnoxious neighbor. OK, I'm just the slightly obnoxious neighbor. In combination with all the other changes and upgrades my favorite mod has been the Flashpro + tune, definitely worth the price.
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2019 | 12:49 PM
  #14  
Spaceentity's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 218
Likes: 7
From: Pinellas, Florida
Default

I have the same problem, I drive my "07" S2000 as if I just stole the damn thing, always getting into VTEC and occasionally taking it to the Red Line. I too am retired and only drive the "S" once or twice a month on the weekends for a 70 mile trip on the interstate, where it's always doing 85-90mph.... She loves to run!
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2019 | 02:40 PM
  #15  
datadr's Avatar
5 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 271
Likes: 26
Default

Originally Posted by Chuck S
The lowered VTEC caused me to install an audible "red line beeper" (for want of a better term) as the revs climbed so fast in the lower gears I was hitting the 8400 rpm rev limiter all the time. Scared the heck out of me on the first on-ramp.

Louder than stock intake and exhaust noise will increase the performance "feel" even if they do little unless the car has been tuned.

When lowered to 3600 rpm there is no VTEC Yo! You know, the effect you wait (and wait and wait) for as the revs climb to the 6000 rpm engagement. At 3600 the engagement is smooth and the exhaust note changes radically (with my exhaust).

This is how the car should have come from the factory.

-- Chuck
Does the FlashPro tune require other modifications to take advantage of it? I prefer mine completely stock, in terms of intake and exhaust, and I know some Honda engines don't add much with a flash-tune without making other changes. I would be all for flashing it, but only if I get some benefits without other changes.
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2019 | 02:55 PM
  #16  
s2000Junky's Avatar
Community Organizer
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 31,070
Likes: 566
Default

Originally Posted by datadr
Does the FlashPro tune require other modifications to take advantage of it? I prefer mine completely stock, in terms of intake and exhaust, and I know some Honda engines don't add much with a flash-tune without making other changes. I would be all for flashing it, but only if I get some benefits without other changes.
You will get some minor benefit with some fuel optimization and be able to lower vtec down to 5300rpm so some advantage in mid range there. Without a Test pipe or high flow cat, you will lose power if you lower vtec bellow that rpm point, but will gain power as low as 3500-3600rpm typically with a TP/High flow cat. Beyond that any other breathing mods will lean out your afr to varying degrees dependent on how effective, so having the ability to correct the fuel will optimize those mods.
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2019 | 03:04 PM
  #17  
Chuck S's Avatar
Member (Premium)
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 13,826
Likes: 1,548
From: Chesterfield VA
Default

Lowering my VTEC to 3600rpm required a high flow cat or cat-delete. 63.5mm Berk high flow cat just bolts in. I already had the ubiquitous K&N FIPK and Tanabe Medalion Touring exhaust but those were not required. The OE exhaust was just too boring to leave on the car. The FIPK was the first mod just for the induction noise and one or two HP. All these items can be swapped in or out in an hour should your preference for "stock" feel the need to return. I never has for me. And the car looks completely stock (other than lacking the oval Civic/Accord exhaust tips of the original.)

If you're ever in Richmond you're welcome to drive the car.

-- Chuck
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2019 | 05:27 PM
  #18  
GuthNW's Avatar
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 215
From: Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by Chuck S
The lowered VTEC caused me to install an audible "red line beeper" (for want of a better term) as the revs climbed so fast in the lower gears I was hitting the 8400 rpm rev limiter all the time.
I can understand why some might want to lower the VTEC engagement but raising the rev limiter to 8400 RPM and then bumping off of it all of the time sounds less than ideal.
Reply
Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:10 AM
  #19  
Chuck S's Avatar
Member (Premium)
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 13,826
Likes: 1,548
From: Chesterfield VA
Default

That's what the rev alarm stops, or at least alerts me to.

According to the dyno test my '06 power peaks at 7833 rpm. My Modifry shift beeper is set to 200 rpm increments. 7400, 7600, 7800, and 8000. OE rev limiter was 8200, tuned rev limiter is 8400. I prefer to stay off it (!) and the power starts to drop slightly at 7833.

7800 is a good shift point; 3d beep: Beep, beep, beep, Shift. In higher gears the alarm sounds like beep.......beep.....beep....beep. In first and second gears it sounds like an alarm bell: beepbeepbeepbeep! Gotta shift quickly in lower gears.

This will give you an idea (ain't my car or video):


-- Chuck
Reply
Old Nov 21, 2019 | 08:54 AM
  #20  
s2000Junky's Avatar
Community Organizer
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 31,070
Likes: 566
Default

^^^I ran one for some time in my first S when I was running an ap1 ecu in with an f22. It is not nearly as good as just having a proper rev limiter, but it can help if you pay attention to it. I found it to be rather just another background noise after a while which became mostly ineffective, however it always startled my passengers when they heard it and I then realized at that point oh yeah forgot I had that. Guess like the radar detector going off, you just drown out what sounds like random beeps and noises over time.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:33 PM.