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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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I think these may be the same videos
http://www.standardshift.com/videos.html



[QUOTE=AustinS2k2003,Sep 13 2005, 01:18 PM]Yes but does the link the the videos on the website he provided work?

This link works: http://www.bmwm5.com/greg/school/


This link (where the video is) does not:
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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[QUOTE=AustinS2k2003 Posted on Sep 13 2005, 02:07 PM]Good tips!
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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THanks man The neutral thing is my wife's bad teaching The s is my first manual so I'm learning as I go but I'll be practicing my downshifting when I get it back repaired!

Thanks agaiN!
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AustinS2k2003,Sep 13 2005, 12:07 PM
I usually don't downshift - rather I pop the gear to neutral and let the car slow up unless I have to downshift and brake in which case I try to rev match but it doesn't always work
If your riding the cluth the whole time your doing this.....or deciding on what your going to do........then this is the reason you are replacing your clutch..

Neutral is a NO-NO...... Pick a gear and the right RPMs.... don't ever "coast"....it's not a safe habit to get into...

Good luck on your new setup...
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Maybe I've just been lucky but I slip the clutch when I downshift and have on every car I've ever owned rather than revmatching. I always do this in conjunction with braking.
Basically, approaching a corner I press the clutch in, begin braking as I shift to 2nd, while still braking, I slowly and smoothly release the clutch and add in some engine braking.
According to everything I've read on this board and others, this is a big no no for clutch life.
The problem I have with this is that as I've said, I've done this with every single car I've ever had (they were all manuals) and only ever had to replace the clutch on my 1990 Celica after 9yrs of ownership. All other cars I never had a clutch problem with.
Am I missing something?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shift_S2K,Sep 13 2005, 02:45 PM
I've done this with every single car I've ever had (they were all manuals) and only ever had to replace the clutch on my 1990 Celica after 9yrs of ownership.
It's a big no-no for taking corners.... and for shifting and for clutch life...

I'm assuming but.......
Your celica was probably the first car that had some power or that you started driving really spirited...

The S has a lot more power and with clutch habits like that...you will not like the results...

I say...learn a new technique and compare...you won't go back to slipping the clutch...

JMO

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SIIK2NR,Sep 13 2005, 03:02 PM
It's a big no-no for taking corners.... and for shifting and for clutch life...

I'm assuming but.......
Your celica was probably the first car that had some power or that you started driving really spirited...

The S has a lot more power and with clutch habits like that...you will not like the results...

I say...learn a new technique and compare...you won't go back to slipping the clutch...

JMO

Tim
Actually the Celica was my first car and they only got more powerful thereafter.

I did this with the 350z and the clutch didn't even have a hint of fade after a year and a half. I mention the Z because of it's torque.

It also took 9 years for the Celica's clutch to wear out, if that's the rate of damage on the clutch I'm inclined to keep doing the same thing.

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this because I often read about people who don't slip the clutch and wear it out in 30 000 miles as is the case here and then there's me who apparently totaly abuses it apparently without damaging it...?

There has got to be another element to the equation.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SIIK2NR,Sep 13 2005, 03:02 PM
It's a big no-no for taking corners....
Oh, and just to clarify, I do this approaching the corner, not in the corner... I know better than that.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Newbie here...had my 05 Sebring Silver for 24 hrs. now.

Since we're talking shifting, is it just my (new) car or do other S2K's clunk into 1st gear at a complete stand still?

I inquired at the service desk, they said synchros problem due to hard driving...um, after less than 24 hours??

Any comments are welcome.

Thanks!
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shift_S2K,Sep 13 2005, 02:45 PM
Maybe I've just been lucky but I slip the clutch when I downshift and have on every car I've ever owned rather than revmatching. I always do this in conjunction with braking.
Basically, approaching a corner I press the clutch in, begin braking as I shift to 2nd, while still braking, I slowly and smoothly release the clutch and add in some engine braking.
According to everything I've read on this board and others, this is a big no no for clutch life.
The problem I have with this is that as I've said, I've done this with every single car I've ever had (they were all manuals) and only ever had to replace the clutch on my 1990 Celica after 9yrs of ownership. All other cars I never had a clutch problem with.
Am I missing something?
what you are doing is putting additional stress on clutch and synchros to get the revs at the proper RPM.

what you should be doing is heel and toe, rev-matched downshift......
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