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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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... for the S2000. All add weight and reduce bank account.

Don't you think if the car needed it Honda would have addressed this? Honda went so far as to put one on an Integra GSR. This car was designed not nearly to the same attention to performance as the S2000... so why isn't there a brace from the factory on the S? Simple answer: it doesn't benefit from one.

Same goes for all x-braces and other crazy JDM bling bullsh*t.

I'm just tired of seeing people ask which brace is best.

If you're going to spend bucks to improve performance, get a front sway bar and wider front tires.

Peace out.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by glagola1,Sep 21 2005, 12:14 PM
... for the S2000. All add weight and reduce bank account.
You expect one to subtract weight and pay you to use it?
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Who pissed on your cornflakes
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Honda already added one. If you look right under the intake housing there is a pretty substantial I-beam between the strut housings. It is a rectangular box that is about 3"x6" or larger and it is welded in place.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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People buy polished superchargers too instead of cheaper satin finished ones. Those don't help you go any faster. I'm pretty sure the people who buy them are aware of this. The thing is... not everyone buys something because it has some performance benefit, some just want something the looks cool or sets their car apart from the rest.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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ohhhh.... Okay.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Well, my first mod to my S2000 will be the following, which is 100% functional and with the radio cover close is 0% visible.

Kenwood KDC-X789 stereo
Kenwood Sirius adapter unit
Kenwood iPod adapter unit

Then maybe an amp and component speakers in the doors.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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I am not running a strut bar on my set up currently but I had one before and it was a good place to lean when you were working on the car! I felt no difference with or without but I do like the x-brace personally.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. For some of us though we can feel the difference in steering precision offered by a STB and/or an XB. To add these things or not to, is a very old and tired argument and there is no way we are all going to agree.

And for the record I have both and they are both made by Neuspeed. The STB is a 1-piece design and is structurally more sound than a 3-piece design and the XB is made from oval aircraft tubing so it does not drop down as far and does not create an ugly oil spill like the silly Spoon design.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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the thing that i dont get about strut tower bars is that they are supposed to keep the frame from flexing. if you are going around a corner and the load is transfered then theoreticaly the side that is getting the load will bend slightly upward. in other words it is no longer completley parrallel to the other side.

well then why in the **** would you want a strut tower bar with hinges that allow that type of movement?


how does that make any sense?

i dont think our cars need them, because like someone mentioned there is a welded in crossmember that does the job. and that crossmember is propably forty lbs of steel. call me crazy, but i dont think that a strut tower bar (with hinges for ****s sake) will improve that very much over the big steel welded in crossmember.

if the strut tower bar is a solid construction piece, meaning no hinges, then maybe it would be useful. but still it could only increase stability incrementaly.
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