Does the S2000 (more specifically AP1) give any signs at all that the rear-end is close to breaking loose? Let's say you're taking a freeway turnabout exit (close to 360

 

Depends on what tires your are running. The stock S02's barely make a noise...and when it does its too late.

 

Front tires are Yokohama ES100's and AVS dB S2 in the rear. I plan on changing the fronts out to the S2's as well once the tread wears out.

 

Same thing about the Falken RT615 very quiet. With my Toyo T1R's it gave me squealing before they start to break out.

 

Squealing is determined by the road conditions also and not just the tires.

If you push your car to it's limits on the freeway on a posted 35mph radius turn then most likely once you lose control it will be too late.

On a larger turn such as one that has a posted limit of say 45mph, you can push the car to the point it will start to slightly oversteer and then just hold it there.

Too much of anything at this point you will lose control. Hold the wheel with both hands and "push" the steering wheel in the direction or "Point" the car in the direction of the turn. For example, if you are making a swooping Left bend, use your Right hand to push the steering wheel as it turns to the Left. Don't use your Left hand to "Pull" the steering wheel down so you can make the turn. If you do this properly, you will be able to feel the limits of the car better than if you are "Pulling" the wheel through your turns.

Practice somewhere safe is what I would recommend.

Tim

 

the times ive had the stock re050a rear go loose i felt it instead of hearing it.

however, they were only slight breaks and i was able to easily correct it and get the car back straight

its a pretty difficult thing without practice... you dont want to countersteer/correct too abruptly, OR wait and do it too casually, as both will exascerbate the situation. all the theory in the world didnt help me when my company sent me on skidpad training

 

[QUOTE=guardiase,Oct 31 2006, 03:55 AM]Does the S2000 (more specifically AP1) give any signs at all that the rear-end is close to breaking loose? Let's say you're taking a freeway turnabout exit (close to 360

 

The few times it happened to me, I didn't hear anything, just felt it. Easy to correct if you know how. This time of year, wet leaves can be a big problem, especially on curves. So watch out!!

 

I've noticed that on tight turns you can start to feel the back go before it actually does. I am not sure, but I have a suspicion that it is due to the differential locking and making one wheel lose traction before the other. I could be wrong, I just know how it feels and haven't figured out yet why it feels that way.

I learned by taking the same 2 tight turns on the way home from work (it is a 90 degree yield lane going merging onto a road that currently can not have traffic coming the other way when I have a green light) a little faster each day (try to hold 1 mph faster) until it started breaking loose.

 

I've been lurking around here, considering a purchase & I'm beginning to pick up that this happens with the S20000. Can someone elaborate just a little please?

Thanks,
Brad