Speeding, test pipes, and morality
Originally Posted by 124Spider,Jan 26 2007, 12:14 AM
And I was further amused by his defensiveness; note that he didn't deny it, just told you not to get personal. 

And apparently reading comprehension > you -- I wasn't the one getting defensive.
Are hi flow cats illegal due to their ineffectiveness in the conversion of harmful gases at a level required by the government?
If so, then what would be the purpose of manufacturing them?
Later today, I will attempt to reach the company and discuss the nature of their Hi flow converter in terms of its effectiveness and post the results of my findings.
If so, then what would be the purpose of manufacturing them?
Later today, I will attempt to reach the company and discuss the nature of their Hi flow converter in terms of its effectiveness and post the results of my findings.
Originally Posted by AlX Boi,Jan 26 2007, 03:59 AM
...that'll hold up court? Somehow, I doubt it.
The basic speed law overrules any additional speed law there is in California. Its like the Constitution of speed.
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Jan 25 2007, 09:15 PM
Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
[QUOTE]I really loved that one. They have no idea what you were saying.
Originally Posted by AGBLLET,Jan 26 2007, 09:07 AM
Are hi flow cats illegal due to their ineffectiveness in the conversion of harmful gases at a level required by the government?
If so, then what would be the purpose of manufacturing them?
Later today, I will attempt to reach the company and discuss the nature of their Hi flow converter in terms of its effectiveness and post the results of my findings.
If so, then what would be the purpose of manufacturing them?
Later today, I will attempt to reach the company and discuss the nature of their Hi flow converter in terms of its effectiveness and post the results of my findings.
The characterization of the California law being made here seems a bit misleading.
1. The posted limits are "prima facie" evidence that that's the maximum safe speed. If you want to worm your way out, you have to convince the judge that your driving did not violate the basic speed law. The burden is on you to prove that you were safe, not on the state to prove that you were unsafe. Given that there are supposed to be studies backing up the reasoning for setting particular speed limits, that will be a difficult burden to prove, in most cases.
2. There apparently are some maximum speeds set by law; for instance, maximum speed on a two lane roadway is 55mph. There are others.
So, California law is a bit funky in this regard (indeed, in many ways), but it's not an anarchist's dream.
1. The posted limits are "prima facie" evidence that that's the maximum safe speed. If you want to worm your way out, you have to convince the judge that your driving did not violate the basic speed law. The burden is on you to prove that you were safe, not on the state to prove that you were unsafe. Given that there are supposed to be studies backing up the reasoning for setting particular speed limits, that will be a difficult burden to prove, in most cases.
2. There apparently are some maximum speeds set by law; for instance, maximum speed on a two lane roadway is 55mph. There are others.
So, California law is a bit funky in this regard (indeed, in many ways), but it's not an anarchist's dream.
Originally Posted by NFRAP1,Jan 26 2007, 12:45 PM
Yep, its illegal to have any kind of aftermarket cat. Just like its illegal to have an aftermarket exhaust. Hmmm I wonder why muffler shops aren't out of business.


Not sure about headers, though I believe they can certainly be legal. Main thing is that you cannot remove or modify OEM emissions equipment.
Originally Posted by camera obscura,Jan 26 2007, 06:31 PM
For the record, he was implying that your question about disagreeing with the EPA was loaded.
Mike has posted repeatedly that catalytic converters don't have any impact on global warming and now the very agency that mandated their use, the EPA, says they do.
I don't see how this was a loaded question.




