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From: Apex
Originally posted by cthree
Ok, here is the drill.
If you are driving straight and let go of the wheel and the car pulls to the right, your right front tire is lower than the left. If it pulls left it's the left front that's low. This is with steady throttle.
If you are driving straight and accelerate and the car pulls to the left, and when you back off it pulls to the right, your left rear is low. Opposite for the right rear.
You will notice the effect when the difference in tire pressures exceeds about 4 psi. It's the best way to know if you have a leak as the S02's have stiff sidewalls and will look ok with as little as 10 psi in them.
The correct pressures for the S02s cold are 34 psi rear, 37 psi front. Hot they will be 38 rear and 42 front.
Hope this helps!
Ok, here is the drill.
If you are driving straight and let go of the wheel and the car pulls to the right, your right front tire is lower than the left. If it pulls left it's the left front that's low. This is with steady throttle.
If you are driving straight and accelerate and the car pulls to the left, and when you back off it pulls to the right, your left rear is low. Opposite for the right rear.
You will notice the effect when the difference in tire pressures exceeds about 4 psi. It's the best way to know if you have a leak as the S02's have stiff sidewalls and will look ok with as little as 10 psi in them.
The correct pressures for the S02s cold are 34 psi rear, 37 psi front. Hot they will be 38 rear and 42 front.
Hope this helps!
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From: Ft. Myers
When you let the clutch out during your turn you unweighted the rear tires, and the car rotated around the weight loaded fronts. It's not the s2000's fault when spins happen because of sloppy driving. Having said that, I've done the exact same thing ... just about put her in the neighbor's yard 
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Originally posted by JsnS2k
You should ALWAY be in gear around a turn, have it in gear BEFOR you enter the turn, and I here the S2000 does not to well on wet ground while turning.
You should ALWAY be in gear around a turn, have it in gear BEFOR you enter the turn, and I here the S2000 does not to well on wet ground while turning.
If the back end seems like it's near the edge what do you? Give it MORE GAS! What do most people do? LIFT! What happens? A close encounter you'd rather avoid.
You must learn the proper technique for driving RWD to keep pointed in the right direction. I always recommend that your first mod be yourself. Go to a performance driving clinic or school and learn how to drive. The experience will pay for itself many times over. If you've never driven a RWD car before then you have no idea what you are getting into. Go learn please.
There is nothing wrong with the S02 tires. What's wrong is a lack of RWD car control skill. I've driven the S02 to hell and back and they are fantastic for a street tire, absolutely the best money can buy. Every spin is a driver error unless it's caused by some form of mechanical failure. I know YOU don't think so but it's true.
I've driven the S02 for 2.5 years and 35K miles and I love them. I just wear through them too fast. I have no experience with them on ice or snow but I assume they aren't very good. The pressures I suggest are based on that experience in most dry weather conditions. Set them as you set fit bit in a year's time they will probably be where I said they should be.
Learning to drive in control in a RWD car has benefits you can only begin to imagine. 4 wheel drifts and powerslides with total confidence and control. You will literally be able to make your car dance. Take that money you were going to put into an exhaust and go to school instead. You'll be a faster, safer and happier driver for the experience.
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From: Vegas Baby, Vegas
Originally posted by cthree
There is nothing wrong with the S02 tires. What's wrong is a lack of RWD car control skill. I've driven the S02 to hell and back and they are fantastic for a street tire, absolutely the best money can buy. Every spin is a driver error unless it's caused by some form of mechanical failure. I know YOU don't think so but it's true.
There is nothing wrong with the S02 tires. What's wrong is a lack of RWD car control skill. I've driven the S02 to hell and back and they are fantastic for a street tire, absolutely the best money can buy. Every spin is a driver error unless it's caused by some form of mechanical failure. I know YOU don't think so but it's true.
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From: Laurel
I believe you have nothing to lose by trying another high performance tire. Further the issues here aren't about a pound or two of air.
There are many characteristics to a tire (max grip being only one.) While another tire won't prevent whatever mistake led to the spin, you might find that you'll get better, earlier warning and maybe more chance to recover. With good feedback, you can drive your car faster and closer to the limit more often.
Good grip is less than optimum if it is not accompanied by good feedback and progressivity. No endurance racer would abide a tire that grips well but lets go suddenly. So many people are just as fast (or faster) on so many different high performance brands, the idea that OEM tires are magic no longer holds any water.
That said, if you like the OEMs, keep them. If not, don't think you'll be losing out by trying something else. If you follow the boards and see who's fast, you'll know what other brands are a safe buy. Most of the tire dogma around here is just opinion masquerading as fact.
There are many characteristics to a tire (max grip being only one.) While another tire won't prevent whatever mistake led to the spin, you might find that you'll get better, earlier warning and maybe more chance to recover. With good feedback, you can drive your car faster and closer to the limit more often.
Good grip is less than optimum if it is not accompanied by good feedback and progressivity. No endurance racer would abide a tire that grips well but lets go suddenly. So many people are just as fast (or faster) on so many different high performance brands, the idea that OEM tires are magic no longer holds any water.
That said, if you like the OEMs, keep them. If not, don't think you'll be losing out by trying something else. If you follow the boards and see who's fast, you'll know what other brands are a safe buy. Most of the tire dogma around here is just opinion masquerading as fact.
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From: Cincinnati
Originally posted by cthree
This is a common mistake for those coming from FWD cars. It is crucial that you learn to drive RWD or you'll end up pointing the wrong way. You should not only be in gear but you should also be ON THE THROTTLE!
If the back end seems like it's near the edge what do you? Give it MORE GAS! What do most people do? LIFT! What happens? A close encounter you'd rather avoid.
You must learn the proper technique for driving RWD to keep pointed in the right direction. I always recommend that your first mod be yourself. Go to a performance driving clinic or school and learn how to drive. The experience will pay for itself many times over. If you've never driven a RWD car before then you have no idea what you are getting into. Go learn please.
There is nothing wrong with the S02 tires. What's wrong is a lack of RWD car control skill. I've driven the S02 to hell and back and they are fantastic for a street tire, absolutely the best money can buy. Every spin is a driver error unless it's caused by some form of mechanical failure. I know YOU don't think so but it's true.
I've driven the S02 for 2.5 years and 35K miles and I love them. I just wear through them too fast. I have no experience with them on ice or snow but I assume they aren't very good. The pressures I suggest are based on that experience in most dry weather conditions. Set them as you set fit bit in a year's time they will probably be where I said they should be.
Learning to drive in control in a RWD car has benefits you can only begin to imagine. 4 wheel drifts and powerslides with total confidence and control. You will literally be able to make your car dance. Take that money you were going to put into an exhaust and go to school instead. You'll be a faster, safer and happier driver for the experience.
This is a common mistake for those coming from FWD cars. It is crucial that you learn to drive RWD or you'll end up pointing the wrong way. You should not only be in gear but you should also be ON THE THROTTLE!
If the back end seems like it's near the edge what do you? Give it MORE GAS! What do most people do? LIFT! What happens? A close encounter you'd rather avoid.
You must learn the proper technique for driving RWD to keep pointed in the right direction. I always recommend that your first mod be yourself. Go to a performance driving clinic or school and learn how to drive. The experience will pay for itself many times over. If you've never driven a RWD car before then you have no idea what you are getting into. Go learn please.
There is nothing wrong with the S02 tires. What's wrong is a lack of RWD car control skill. I've driven the S02 to hell and back and they are fantastic for a street tire, absolutely the best money can buy. Every spin is a driver error unless it's caused by some form of mechanical failure. I know YOU don't think so but it's true.
I've driven the S02 for 2.5 years and 35K miles and I love them. I just wear through them too fast. I have no experience with them on ice or snow but I assume they aren't very good. The pressures I suggest are based on that experience in most dry weather conditions. Set them as you set fit bit in a year's time they will probably be where I said they should be.
Learning to drive in control in a RWD car has benefits you can only begin to imagine. 4 wheel drifts and powerslides with total confidence and control. You will literally be able to make your car dance. Take that money you were going to put into an exhaust and go to school instead. You'll be a faster, safer and happier driver for the experience.
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