SR20 in S2K
Thanks Xclusive and WI.....
I will do as much research as possible and I appreciate your input. I just want to find the best option(s).
I do realize that all installations of this type will have headaches and frustrations, I'm more concerned about the tuning part of the equation.
Xclusive, you are making 330 w/ 6psi?? Stock head gasket? 3" exh? Did you tune the car yourself? What AF do you tune for?
Thanks
I will do as much research as possible and I appreciate your input. I just want to find the best option(s).
I do realize that all installations of this type will have headaches and frustrations, I'm more concerned about the tuning part of the equation.
Xclusive, you are making 330 w/ 6psi?? Stock head gasket? 3" exh? Did you tune the car yourself? What AF do you tune for?
Thanks
First off, the F20C and F22C are both incredible motors with enormous potential that is just now being tapped into. The head flows better than any production head to date and you want to get rid of it...tisk tisk
So you think the SR20 transplanted into an S2000 will be more reliable. However, you are modifing many things to make it fit - drastically. Lets say after thousands in welding and cutting to make everything fit and the drivetrain work, you have a broken mount. Who are you going to goto? Can't goto honda and you probably can't use the factory nissan mounts. You'll have to goto your fabricator to have them fixed or new ones made.
The S2000 makes more power N/A out of the same displacement as a turbo'ed SR20 motor.
The SR20 also has its fair share of problems when you get high on the HP.
So you think the SR20 transplanted into an S2000 will be more reliable. However, you are modifing many things to make it fit - drastically. Lets say after thousands in welding and cutting to make everything fit and the drivetrain work, you have a broken mount. Who are you going to goto? Can't goto honda and you probably can't use the factory nissan mounts. You'll have to goto your fabricator to have them fixed or new ones made.
The S2000 makes more power N/A out of the same displacement as a turbo'ed SR20 motor.
The SR20 also has its fair share of problems when you get high on the HP.
i'm so bothered by this thread. why would you swap a motor that makes less power than the F20?
if you wanna do 350 on a f20, supercharge it and get the supercharger upgrade from science of speed and youre there, with stock internals
if you really wanna swap put in a real motor like a 2jz-gte
if you wanna do 350 on a f20, supercharge it and get the supercharger upgrade from science of speed and youre there, with stock internals
if you really wanna swap put in a real motor like a 2jz-gte
Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Jun 16 2006, 01:37 PM
the amount of misinformation going on in this thread is enough to make anyone go crazy.
The SR20DET comes in 2 flavors one FWD and one RWD.
With the engines sitting side by side the only readily apparent issues are engine mounts which are definitely not "thousands and thousands of dollars" of fabrication.
As far as having to replace the diff, that wouldn't be because of the SR20DET that would be because of the power. Many are already having to do that with the FC20 so that is a factor of power not which engine you use. If you need a new diff because you're making 350 hp with the FC20 then you'll need a new diff with the SR20
The engine ecu for the SR20 is completely self contained so you could retain the stock S ecu for whatever functions needed on the S. This is done on many engine swaps in other cars.
Yes, the SR20 is old school, but it is old school that works and is very reliable. I hate to say this, but it is one of the favorite engines for the drift crowd. There are more aftermarket pieces for this engine than almost any other out there, it is the Chevy small block of the import world. That means options, lots of them. It also means no pioneering new ground.
Can it be done, sure. Would it be expensive - NO!
Would it be better than a SC FC20? Depends upons what you call better.
Can it make more HP reliably - YES.
What would it do to the value?
Would it be cool? Could be. Unless I found a cheap engineless S2000 I'd never do it, but you could, rather easily and quite inexpensively.
What does a blown FC20 cost? I have 2 04 engine/trannies that cost me $5,000 each. I bought the SR20DET for $2,000. Factor that into your cost to do it.
I for one am going to play devil's advocate for both sides:
For the F20C camp, I understand the plight. If I had my pick, I'd rather have a turbo F20C than an SR20 in my S2000. The hassle of fabricating everything to work, on a motor that is less sophisticated technologically seems dumb at first glance... however...
If there was a mount kit and easy access to an SR20 swap... I would most certainly do it. Here's why: cost. I could easily sell my current motor/tranny for the entire if not near amount of what the SR20 setup would be. For me to turbo my car, I'd have to spend nearly 8 thousand dollars. To get a 400rwhp setup, it'd be cheaper to go with the SR20 because I could sell my motor, T1R exhaust, and J's header and have EASILY enough to buy the motor, and fabricate the install and boost the hell out of everything.
I think it's actually a cool idea. If anyone comes up with a fabricated kit, give me a holler
While I don't see this happening... I most certainly would if it were available.
For the F20C camp, I understand the plight. If I had my pick, I'd rather have a turbo F20C than an SR20 in my S2000. The hassle of fabricating everything to work, on a motor that is less sophisticated technologically seems dumb at first glance... however...
If there was a mount kit and easy access to an SR20 swap... I would most certainly do it. Here's why: cost. I could easily sell my current motor/tranny for the entire if not near amount of what the SR20 setup would be. For me to turbo my car, I'd have to spend nearly 8 thousand dollars. To get a 400rwhp setup, it'd be cheaper to go with the SR20 because I could sell my motor, T1R exhaust, and J's header and have EASILY enough to buy the motor, and fabricate the install and boost the hell out of everything.
I think it's actually a cool idea. If anyone comes up with a fabricated kit, give me a holler

While I don't see this happening... I most certainly would if it were available.


