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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Well I have had my Kw's since Dec 2004, they are great shocks and can be adjusted to be streetable, however adjusting bump is not a quick and easy job, For a daily driver I think are are still too stiff.

My car is not a daily driver so I dont care how stiff it is.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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If he drives his car daily why would he constantly need to adjust the bump? Bump can be adjusted within 15 minutes anyway... Not really a difficult task... You just need to jack up your car a bit. I must admit however that when I adjust the bump, I usually use a lift. You really find the KW's to be more stiff than stock at their softer settings?
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Perhaps, its been so long though

I think for the needs stated the KW's may be overkill. There is also a chance of misadjusting the suspension
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Appreciated for the advices, still undecided. Looking into koni + gc spring, but a few more bucks, I think the pss9 is a better choice for me. Thanks again.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gfacter,Jul 15 2006, 01:52 PM
Perhaps, its been so long though

I think for the needs stated the KW's may be overkill. There is also a chance of misadjusting the suspension
True...

KW can be tough if you are unfamiliar with suspension adjustments and how this may affect that. So far however I love them.

Have you ever removed your rear swaybar on street tires? I want to see how this will affect my oversteer.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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My PSS9's are *great* on the street. After more than a year of driving I still find myself noticing how nicely they ride.

Handling is significantly better than stock and the ride is less jiggly than my 03 stock suspension.

1 is the stiffest setting, 9 is softest...I run 7 in front and 8 in back for normal driving.

Set on the stiffest setting they are too stiff for the street but good on the track.

Click my PSS9 signature link for info on the install.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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It's a pity all of this is so subjective. I've seen shock dyno's for the Koni's, not for the KW's or the PSS9's. I'm unclear what a KW brings to the table over a GC/Koni setup with the same spring rates. The nice thing about the Koni's is I can send them in for revalving at about $200 each. My experiences with Koni's have been real good so, I'm reluctant to experiment with other, far more expensive solutions.

datbird, you said you want the PSS9's but, I'm not hearing any kind of substantive reason. Is it because they look nicer? Do you know what spring rates they are?

I can call GC on the phone Monday, tell them what I want to use the car for and they'll recommend a set of spring rates. I'll give you a couple good reasons to go GC.

1) Since they don't have a pre-load, you can adjust the ride height with nothing more than a jack and an allen wrench.

2) You never have to use a spring compressor again when you change rates. When you jack up the car, the springs unload and the cartridge can be taken apart, no fuss, no muss.

3) If you happen to blow a shock, you spend another $159 and and get a replacement, stick it in and go. With the others you have to send the thing back in for a rebuild and your ride's down for the duration.

4) You can get almost identical spring rates to the KW if that's what you want. If it's too stiff. You can order another set of springs for $150 or so.

5) If you want to dial in more or less oversteer. You can change the spring rates any way you want. Maybe start out with a noob safe rate then switch it up as you experience get greater. Switching is cheap too.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IIGQ4U,Jul 15 2006, 02:20 PM
KW is not stiff when adjusted properly... Not stiff at all bro.
Heh. I've used just about every suspension available for the s2000 on one of the 4 s2000s I've owned. Konis, Megan, KW, Penske, JRZ, Ground control, and Motons. I just ordered a set of PSS9s from www.shox.com.

The KW v3 does not ride like stock at any setting. On the softest setting, you get some wallowing, but they do not absorb bumps like a stock s2000 does. The previous posters are right, there is no way to get 2x and 3x the stock spring rates to ride the same.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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I posted my opinion. If yours differs, that is fine but you are in no position to state that my opinion is not correct. I don't feel that at the softest settings the KW's are very stiff. Perhaps there is something wrong with my KW's?
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Does anyone know how high a spring rate the PSS9 can take? I like the idea of the PSS9 too, mono-tube shocks but, I really want higher spring rates. Probably in the 500 lb/in range.

It's my understanding (please correct me) that the KW's a double-tube shock, like the Koni's yet the stock rear S2000 shock is a mono-tube.
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